Hongbit Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 5 hours ago, lordstanley said: I think 27 seconds with 3 KC timeouts is right on the border of where I’d go for it. Hence the tv crew’s criticism of Tampa’s decision to call a quick timeout when they got a 1st down at the one. One advantage of being tied is that the offense will be more conservative than if they were trailing by one. For example, if they were down by 1 KC would have gone for it on 4th and 1 and likely made it instead of punting it away with 15 seconds to go. That’s less of a risk if you kick off when up 1 with only 20 seconds to go and only 1 timeout. Even had Bowles gone for two and got it, how shocked would anyone have been if Mahomes got KC in FG range with 27 seconds and 2 TO. Not very. I think most of us would be surprised if 15 didn’t get them there in that situation. The right play was probably to go OT and bet on the coin toss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 19 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Even had Bowles gone for two and got it, how shocked would anyone have been if Mahomes got KC in FG range with 27 seconds and 2 TO. Not very. I think most of us would be surprised if 15 didn’t get them there in that situation. The right play was probably to go OT and bet on the coin toss. I don't like kicks into the end zone being placed at the 30 yard line. Between that and kickers' longer ranges these days, you really only need about 20-25 yards to get into the fringe of FG range of some kickers. Even if you're left with time for only one or two plays before a FG attempt, you have a shot now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 The point that Stanley brought up about the time remaining and how it automatically turns it into 4 down territory if you are down 1 makes me rescind my previous point about going for 2. I still feel you should go for it if there was less time and the choice was essentially a guaranteed win with a 2pt make or OT with a kick. But with the amount of time left for this one that wasn't the case especially with Mahomes and the Chiefs offense in guaranteed 4 down and aggressive territory. With the tie they are far more likely to play more conservative knowing that worst case scenario is overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 When you see Baltimore get away with 2 blatant penalties on Cincy's 2-point conversion, it does make you wonder if something is afoot with the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 (edited) Not saying the NFL is "rigged", but more and more I do believe that the field is tilted one way or the other That used to go against the Lions, but with the Lions pulling in huge numbers whenever on national tv, I do think the leaguer probably will tilt things our way. I think the league wants to see Lamar vs. Mahomes again in the AFC championship. I do think there is a "look the other way" edict for certain teams. With the Lions being the real "America's Team" we could benefit, but just seeing the Chiefs tackle False Starting several times and not getting called and then the missed calls last night, I do wonder. It is entertainment dressed up as sports. Edited November 8 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Not saying the NFL is "rigged", but more and more I do believe that the field is tilted one way or the other That used to go against the Lions, but with the Lions pulling in huge numbers whenever on national tv, I do think the leaguer probably will tilt things our way. I think the league wants to see Lamar vs. Mahomes again in the AFC championship. I do think there is a "look the other way" edict for certain teams. With the Lions being the real "America's Team" we could benefit, but just seeing the Chiefs tackle False Starting several times and not getting called and then the missed calls last night, I do wonder. It is entertainment dressed up as sports. entertainment you can wager on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 51 minutes ago, romad1 said: entertainment you can wager on yep. there will be a referee scandal one say regarding gambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 16 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: yep. there will be a referee scandal one say regarding gambling. Or a couple referrees will be killed in a helicopter crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 12 minutes ago, romad1 said: Or a couple referrees will be killed in a helicopter crash Senator Paul Wellstone was about to lower the boom on Ticketmaster. Sudden plane crash followed. Nobody has even tried to do anything sense..............I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Senator Paul Wellstone was about to lower the boom on Ticketmaster. Sudden plane crash followed. Nobody has even tried to do anything sense..............I wonder. by the transitive property all aviation crash victims are about to uncover .... i've said too much. :--) Edited November 8 by romad1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Can we please keep politics out of the sports forums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Can’t post the tweet but DraftKings had to decrease revenue guidance by $250M as a result of “customer friendly sports outcomes” aka NFL favorites are winning. October was the worst month in company history for NFL betting. I think DK will manage as this change means revenue will drop to $5 Billion for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 On Sirius XM NFL Radio this morning, Merrill Hoge said he thinks the Lions have the best secondary in the NFL. Highlighted their communication, spacing, and tackling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 6 minutes ago, Jason_R said: On Sirius XM NFL Radio this morning, Merrill Hoge said he thinks the Lions have the best secondary in the NFL. Highlighted their communication, spacing, and tackling. What a change from a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 43 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: What a change from a year ago. Yeah, I don’t know if he is right but he is not obviously wrong. And the coverage includes the LBs too. PFF has Jack Campbell as its sixth best coverage LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Yeah I think people that only watch Lions games get frustrated with our secondary when they get a penalty or a big play happens. Problem is this is a passing league and its very hard to stop these top guys. Greenbay has one of the best secondaries in the league and look what we did to them. This is year has been drastically better. I love the aggression even though it leads to penalties sometime. Last year there would be a couple of plays a game were Sutton was 5-10 yards from the receiver. Our penalties have slowed down as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 The only thing that should stop the Saints from hiring AG as their head coach is if the Jets hire him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 9 Author Share Posted November 9 Dak Done for the year. Lions have never beaten Dak Prescott. Until This Year Lions have never beaten the Tennessee Titans. Until This Year Lions haven't beaten the Texas since 2004. We'll see........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 9 Author Share Posted November 9 4 hours ago, Hongbit said: The only thing that should stop the Saints from hiring AG as their head coach is if the Jets hire him first. Think of how much better our defense will be without him. Man, and if we can lose Ben Johnson too? Wow. 23-0 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted Sunday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:35 PM Can't believe we are giving the Germans a Giants-Panthers game as a sampling of what the NFL has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted Sunday at 03:45 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:45 PM Daniel Jones isn't very good at his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted Sunday at 04:12 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:12 PM I did not have Machine Gun Kelly singing John Denver at an NFL halftime in Munich, Germany on my 2024 bingo sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:14 PM 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: Can't believe we are giving the Germans a Giants-Panthers game as a sampling of what the NFL has to offer. It's the day before Veterans' Day. We're still pissed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM I almost feel sorry for Caleb Williams. They showed him on the sidelines looking SO confused. A leaky offensive line is a quarterbacks worst enemy. Chicago in the process of destroying another young QB carreer. Who they drafting next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted Sunday at 08:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:13 PM Cam Sutton just broke up a pass for the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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