NFL Comments for 2024

[RandyMarsh]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5940518/2024/11/22/detroit-lions-super-bowl-betting-2024/

Article about how Vegas is scared of the Lions and is the one team that could really hurt them if they were to win it all. Talked about how they already have been killing them due to how much money is put on them and how they always cover. Also talks about how they asked 6 oddsmakers what they would place the line at right now against the Chiefs on a neutral field and all favored the Lions with one guy going up to 4.5. 

IDK the conspiracy theorist in me gets worried about this due to how much power Vegas has and the money at stake. They wouldn't dare get in a refs ear about making sure the Lions don't win when it comes playoff time would they? 

[Motown Bombers]

13 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5940518/2024/11/22/detroit-lions-super-bowl-betting-2024/

Article about how Vegas is scared of the Lions and is the one team that could really hurt them if they were to win it all. Talked about how they already have been killing them due to how much money is put on them and how they always cover. Also talks about how they asked 6 oddsmakers what they would place the line at right now against the Chiefs on a neutral field and all favored the Lions with one guy going up to 4.5. 

IDK the conspiracy theorist in me gets worried about this due to how much power Vegas has and the money at stake. They wouldn't dare get in a refs ear about making sure the Lions don't win when it comes playoff time would they? 

I think we know who snitched on Jameson Williams. 

[sagnam]

This is a bananas rule.

[RedRamage]

3 minutes ago, sagnam said:

This is a bananas rule.

At least according to wikipedia, that's not a real rule. There IS a disaster rule in place but it's different.

Short version: fewer than 15 players disabled: The team moves and stays at the top of the waiver wire for the season. If a QB is one of the disabled the team can draft up to QBs from other teams, but each team is allowed to protect two QBs... also that QB revert to the original team after the season.

15 or more: The commish can choose to cancel that teams remaining schedule. This moves the team to the top of next years draft and triggers a special draft (presumably in the off season) where teams can protect 32 players. If the commish does NOT cancel the teams schedule, the fewer than 15 rule applies.

[RedRamage]

Looking at the wiki page more (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_draft) this person totally got mixed up and used the NBA contingency plan:

The National Basketball Association (NBA) contingency plan activates if five or more players on a team "die or are dismembered". A special "disaster draft" would be held in which other NBA teams could only protect five players, so that quality sixth men would be available. No more than one player would be drafted from a team.

[sagnam]

That makes more sense. And is also a wild rule.

[Sports_Freak]

San Francisco is going into Green Bay this week without Purdy or Bosa. And yes, Green Bay sucks!

[MichiganCardinal]

Hard not to see the parallels between Ditka and Campbell. Other than Campbell being an actually decent human being of course.

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

17 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Hard not to see the parallels between Ditka and Campbell. Other than Campbell being an actually decent human being of course.

God I hope not!!!!!!! Ditka traded every draft pick he had for Ricky Williams. If Campbell ever convinced Brad to do something so dumb and reckless he should be fired.

[MichiganCardinal]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

God I hope not!!!!!!! Ditka traded every draft pick he had for Ricky Williams. If Campbell ever convinced Brad to do something so dumb and reckless he should be fired.

Good thing we are leaving the roster assembly to Brad.

[lordstanley]

I sure wish the Giants hadn’t decided to move on from Saquon Barkley. 255 rushing yards tonight. He has also caught 4 passes for 47 yards, so over 300 yards in total. 

Edited November 25, 2024 by lordstanley

[Sports_Freak]

There was a play last night where LA fumbled and the ball was recovered by Philly. The refs ruled it incomplete. So the Rams hurried to the line of scrimmage and ran a play. The refs THEN decided to honor the red flag the Philly coach threw. They then ruled it a fumble and gave the ball to Philly. After the Rams had already ran a play. Officials suck.

[lordstanley]

52 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

There was a play last night where LA fumbled and the ball was recovered by Philly. The refs ruled it incomplete. So the Rams hurried to the line of scrimmage and ran a play. The refs THEN decided to honor the red flag the Philly coach threw. They then ruled it a fumble and gave the ball to Philly. After the Rams had already ran a play. Officials suck.

And another time last night, Philly stopped LA on 3rd down inside the 5 and seemed to initially decline the offensive holding penalty. Then when LA lined up to go for it on 4th down, Philly ended up accepting the penalty (broadcast explanation was that perhaps Siriani never actually declined the penalty and it may have just been the refs assuming he would decline it- still, seemed like a too-long 30-second lag). 

Edited November 25, 2024 by lordstanley

[KnoxP]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

There was a play last night where LA fumbled and the ball was recovered by Philly. The refs ruled it incomplete. So the Rams hurried to the line of scrimmage and ran a play. The refs THEN decided to honor the red flag the Philly coach threw. They then ruled it a fumble and gave the ball to Philly. After the Rams had already ran a play. Officials suck.

 

43 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

And another time last night, Philly stopped LA on 3rd down inside the 5 and seemed to initially decline the offensive holding penalty. Then when LA lined up to go for it on 4th down, Philly ended up accepting the penalty (broadcast explanation was that perhaps Siriani never actually declined the penalty and it may have just been the refs assuming he would decline it- still, seemed like a too-long 30-second lag). 

Yea, intentions and specifics aside...it does not look good.  Get your #### together and remove any of this fuel for doubt and speculation!

[Sports_Freak]

Chargers take the opening kick and get a TD drive. It's why I'm against deferring the opening kick. All game long, teams desperately try to get the ball. To just give away a possession doesn't make sense. Just so a team <may> get back to back possessions? It doesn't make sense if you're playing catch up from the start. Take the ball every chance you get...

[Motown Bombers]

 

[RedRamage]

41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

That's very admirable by Jerry there. I fully support this action and praise Jones for his great logic and leadership. Now, how do we get Jerry together with Virginia McCaskey so that he can share this wonderful ownership decision making with her?

[gehringer_2]

14 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Chargers take the opening kick and get a TD drive. It's why I'm against deferring the opening kick. All game long, teams desperately try to get the ball. To just give away a possession doesn't make sense. Just so a team <may> get back to back possessions? It doesn't make sense if you're playing catch up from the start. Take the ball every chance you get...

It's not really giving away a possession though, if you get the odd one in the first half you give it back in the 2nd. The better question is whether you have a better chance to score on the 1st drive when neither side has seen what the other is doing, or at the beginning of the 2nd half, after you have made adjustments to what the other side is doing. Maybe that's what it comes down to the most - if you think you are smarter than the other guy, defer. If you are up against a guy you fear is better at adjusting than you may be, take the ball before he's seen you play.

[4hzglory]

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It's not really giving away a possession though, if you get the odd one in the first half you give it back in the 2nd. The better question is whether you have a better chance to score on the 1st drive when neither side has seen what the other is doing, or at the beginning of the 2nd half, after you have made adjustments to what the other side is doing. Maybe that's what it comes down to the most - if you think you are smarter than the other guy, defer. If you are up against a guy you fear is better at adjusting than you may be, take the ball before he's seen you play.

Definitely agree.  It seems like more often than not, the Lions have not scored on their first possession of the game, but have dominated the 2nd quarter and 2nd half.  Not to mention the possibility at the end of the first half playing so you have the last possession as well as the first of the 2nd.  

[RandyMarsh]

I was always in the defer camp but lately I switched to receiving camp. 

Yeah it's nice having the possibility of double dipping but those opportunities rarely happen. A team might get one a season if they are lucky. 

Atleast when you get the ball first you know you are getting the ball at a 50/50 win probability rate where as if you defer you could get the ball when your win probability is really high or really low so the possession doesn't mean that much. 

[Motown Bombers]

Pro Bowl voting is under way, and the Lions could set a team record in Pro Bowlers. My picks for Pro Bowlers are:

Offense: Goff, Ragnow, Zeitler, Sewell, Gibbs

Defense: McNeil, Branch, Joseph

Special Teams: Raymond

Alternates: Montgomery, St Brown, Fox

Snubs: Campbell, Davis, Bates

[Sports_Freak]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

It's not really giving away a possession though, if you get the odd one in the first half you give it back in the 2nd. The better question is whether you have a better chance to score on the 1st drive when neither side has seen what the other is doing, or at the beginning of the 2nd half, after you have made adjustments to what the other side is doing. Maybe that's what it comes down to the most - if you think you are smarter than the other guy, defer. If you are up against a guy you fear is better at adjusting than you may be, take the ball before he's seen you play.

My opinion is if you have a dominant defense and an average offense, go ahead and defer. With the Lions offense? Take the ball, score and play with a lead. I see too many crummy teams defer and when they get the ball first in the 2nd half, they're down multiple scores. Take the ball....

[sagnam]

Eagles claim Charles Harris off of waivers

[Motown Bombers]

 

[sagnam]

The QB situation makes sense there.