NFL Comments for 2024

[KnoxP]

16 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Guy is still productive at 38. He would fill a need.

 

Am I correct that "release" would then mean he immediately becomes a FA and not have to go waiver wire process?

[Hongbit]

10 minutes ago, KnoxP said:

Am I correct that "release" would then mean he immediately becomes a FA and not have to go waiver wire process?

Nope.  This late in the season everyone must go through waivers.  November 5th is the cutoff date. 

Edited December 19, 2024 by Hongbit

[Motown Bombers]

I'm assuming he won't make it to the Lions. Any team would claim just to block him from the Lions. 

[MichiganCardinal]

10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm assuming he won't make it to the Lions. Any team would claim just to block him from the Lions. 

It's a little messier than that. Just because he's claimed doesn't mean he would sign with a team. He's 38, and his release is with the intent to sign with a contender. Who knows how liberal his definition of contender is though.

I'm guessing he would have a list of 3-7 teams that he says "I'll go here," but it's not as if he's going to play for the Jaguars or Raiders if they are who claim him. If the Packers or Rams are not on his shortlist of teams he'll play for, it would be an exercise in futility to claim him just to prevent him from signing with the Lions, because he would have to take a spot on your 53, despite refusing to sign/play for you.

That said, it would probably take some other contenders passing on him for him to reach the Lions, given they have one of the best records in the league.

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, MichiganCardinal said:

It's a little messier than that. Just because he's claimed doesn't mean he would sign with a team. He's 38, and his release is with the intent to sign with a contender. Who knows how liberal his definition of contender is though.

I'm guessing he would have a list of 3-7 teams that he says "I'll go here," but it's not as if he's going to play for the Jaguars or Raiders if they are who claim him. If the Packers or Rams are not on his shortlist of teams he'll play for, it would be an exercise in futility to claim him just to prevent him from signing with the Lions, because he would have to take a spot on your 53, despite refusing to sign/play for you.

That said, it would probably take some other contenders passing on him for him to reach the Lions, given they have one of the best records in the league.

I would still claim him even if he said he wouldn't play for me just to block him from the Lions. 

[Hongbit]

If a player is claimed they must go on the 53 and can’t be put on the practice squad at any time.   Every roster spot is valuable at this time of year for the contenders.   I don’t see anyone using it just to block the Lions but it probably doesn’t matter since every contender could find a spot for him in their DL rotation.  

[Tigeraholic1]

11 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

It's a little messier than that. Just because he's claimed doesn't mean he would sign with a team. He's 38, and his release is with the intent to sign with a contender. Who knows how liberal his definition of contender is though.

I'm guessing he would have a list of 3-7 teams that he says "I'll go here," but it's not as if he's going to play for the Jaguars or Raiders if they are who claim him. If the Packers or Rams are not on his shortlist of teams he'll play for, it would be an exercise in futility to claim him just to prevent him from signing with the Lions, because he would have to take a spot on your 53, despite refusing to sign/play for you.

That said, it would probably take some other contenders passing on him for him to reach the Lions, given they have one of the best records in the league.

It was not that many years ago the Lions would be used in this verbage. 

[Motown Bombers]

The Jets are a complete dumpster fire. I would be willing to give Joe Douglas a second chance. 

 

[Dan Gilmore]

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[RatkoVarda]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

The Jets are a complete dumpster fire.

Ben Johnson is not going there.

[Hongbit]

There’s the saying born on 3rd and thinks they hit a triple.  

Woody was born in the Hall of Fame and thinks he’s Willie Mays.  

[Hongbit]

 Browns Fans FTW! 

[Sports_Freak]

8 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

Ben Johnson is not going there.

There's a lot of Bear fans calling for Ben as the Bears next coach. Think he would go there?

[Sports_Freak]

A Free Kick in the Bronco/Charger game. Pretty strange play...1st one since the 70's.

[CMRivdogs]

22 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

There's a lot of Bear fans calling for Ben as the Bears next coach. Think he would go there?

There were rumors that was the job he wanted last season. 

[MichiganCardinal]

19 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

There were rumors that was the job he wanted last season. 

I don’t really understand why. Williams looks awful and McCaskey is one of the worst owners in the league. Feels like he’d be setup to be another three-and-done in Chicago.

I would be hoping that the Cincinnati job opens up if I was Ben Johnson. Waiting on a golden goose like KC or Baltimore to open up isn’t the worst idea either, so long as he thinks he can keep this machine running in Detroit.

[RandyMarsh]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

A Free Kick in the Bronco/Charger game. Pretty strange play...1st one since the 70's.

I saw somebody post that, had no idea about that rule. Seems like something the "same ole Lions" would've came across at some point and lost a game because of. 

[TP_Fan]

3 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I saw somebody post that, had no idea about that rule. Seems like something the "same ole Lions" would've came across at some point and lost a game because of. 

Last time an attempt happened agaisnt the lions:

 

[RedRamage]

11 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I don’t really understand why. Williams looks awful and McCaskey is one of the worst owners in the league. Feels like he’d be setup to be another three-and-done in Chicago.

I would be hoping that the Cincinnati job opens up if I was Ben Johnson. Waiting on a golden goose like KC or Baltimore to open up isn’t the worst idea either, so long as he thinks he can keep this machine running in Detroit.

The ownership/front office would be my concern. I think Williams' problems are a product of the inept coaching there more than anything else. Obviously there is the concern that they "broke" him, but it's only one season.

But if I was Ben I'd be much more worried about the front office and ownership.

[Motown Bombers]

Ben Johnson has no history of developing a young QB. He's only ever worked with one QB. He took a veteran QB who had a history of success and got him back to that level of success. The Lions offense relies heavily on Goff making pre-snap reads and delivering the ball on time and with anticipation. I haven't seen Williams come close to being able to do that, and it's not like he done it at college. The question is, can Johnson coach Williams to make those reads or can he design an offense around his skillset? I honestly feel like Dallas may be a better fit. Dak is basically Goff 2.0. Would Johnson mesh with Jerry Jones? One good thing about Jones if you Johnson is he doesn't have a quick trigger. He stuck with Jason Garret for a long time. 

[RandyMarsh]

Johnson and the Lions offense also benefit greatly by Campbell's aggressiveness, Johnson knows that in most cases he has 4 downs to work with every series so he can call running plays on typical passing downs or throw short of the sticks on 3rd and long. Stuff like that makes things so much more difficult for defenses. 

Now Johnson may very well keep that same mindset initially as a Head Coach but will he take it to the extreme that Dan does or have the stones to stick with when he gets heat the times they backfire is another thing?

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, RedRamage said:

The ownership/front office would be my concern. I think Williams' problems are a product of the inept coaching there more than anything else. Obviously there is the concern that they "broke" him, but it's only one season.

But if I was Ben I'd be much more worried about the front office and ownership.

Agreed. Most young players go thru growing pains. Williams will be a very good QB if coached up properly. And more quality OL.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

Johnson and the Lions offense also benefit greatly by Campbell's aggressiveness, Johnson knows that in most cases he has 4 downs to work with every series so he can call running plays on typical passing downs or throw short of the sticks on 3rd and long. Stuff like that makes things so much more difficult for defenses. 

Now Johnson may very well keep that same mindset initially as a Head Coach but will he take it to the extreme that Dan does or have the stones to stick with when he gets heat the times they backfire is another thing?

It's one thing to go for it when your team is 5-8. Totally different when your team is 10-2. You have more to lose. Even within a game. Losing 24-3? Not much to lose. A closer game? The decision could change the final score, for better or worse.

[4hzglory]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Agreed. Most young players go thru growing pains. Williams will be a very good QB if coached up properly. And more quality OL.

Maybe, but he doesn't seem to have any real football awareness.  Reports are didn't even know they only needed a field goal to tie on Thanksgiving Day.  Many of the sacks he's taken show no awareness.  He has elite skills which have always gotten him by, but does he have the head to be more than a talented athlete?

[Shinzaki]

I was talking to the coach of my alma mater (BGSU) about a kid who was great athlete and had prototypical size to be a great LB.  Unfortunately..he couldn't mentally process the reads he would have to make defensively so they moved him to TE where he didn't have to process as much mentally.

I imagine it's a huge issue for an NFL QB to have that deficit