gehringer_2 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: In terms of draft picks, Holmes in 4 drafts have drafted 8 Pro Bowlers ... And he's going to have to keep it up. If the Vikes sign Darnold and decide to trade McCarthy going into a not so great QB draft year they could end up with some good picks. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 2 Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: And he's going to have to keep it up. If the Vikes sign Darnold and decide to trade McCarthy going into a not so great QB draft year they could end up with some good picks. Kwesi has been terrible at drafting. It's amazing how good the Vikings are given their poor drafts. It has to catch up with them eventually. They only have 3 picks in the draft, a 1st and two 5ths. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted January 2 Posted January 2 22 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: And he's going to have to keep it up. If the Vikes sign Darnold and decide to trade McCarthy going into a not so great QB draft year they could end up with some good picks. The Athletic had a story that a lot of scouts see no QBs with a first round grade this year. Sanders and Ward are default picks for NYG and LV because they don't have anyone. In addition to JJ, I wonder if Hooker would have a market? If Johnson leaves and goes somewhere without a QB, would he want Hooker? Quote
RedRamage Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 12/29/2024 at 10:51 PM, MichiganCardinal said: I'm not one to judge locker room celebrations, but out of context I would have expected this was a clinching celebration for them. I thought it was them celebrating Darnold getting 4K passing yards. Quote
RedRamage Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 12/30/2024 at 2:41 PM, Hongbit said: This seems like the ultimate in Cherry Picking. Keeping looking at stats until you find the right ones that line up. Rookie QBs for over 3300? Lots of them... But also with over 450 rushing? Still quite a few... hmm... what about 18 passing TDs? Okay... now we're cutting down the list, but we still have a few. Oh, what about 6 or fewer INTs? THERE WE GO!! 1 Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 2 Posted January 2 47 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: The Athletic had a story that a lot of scouts see no QBs with a first round grade this year. Sanders and Ward are default picks for NYG and LV because they don't have anyone. In addition to JJ, I wonder if Hooker would have a market? If Johnson leaves and goes somewhere without a QB, would he want Hooker? Matt Miller of Scouts inc.put up his article today on ESPN about what players he'd give 1st round grades to and he to didn't have any qbs. He said they'd all be behind Caleb, Daniels, Maye and "even McCarthy" if they were in last year's class. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Just saw a stat on X about Gibbs, through 2 seasons only 2 RBs in NFL history have averaged more yards per carry than Gibbs, Clinton Portis(on those unstoppable Denver rushing offenses at the time) and the one and only Jim Brown. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Clinton Portis is a name I hadn't heard in a long time. he was traded to Washington in the early days of Daniel Snyder for Champ Bailey. Bailey went on to have a hall of fame career and Portis averaged about 1.5 yards per carry less with Washington. I remember when the Lions drafted Champ's brother Boss. Good times. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 21 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Clinton Portis is a name I hadn't heard in a long time. he was traded to Washington in the early days of Daniel Snyder for Champ Bailey. Bailey went on to have a hall of fame career and Portis averaged about 1.5 yards per carry less with Washington. I remember when the Lions drafted Champ's brother Boss. Good times. If you ever find yourself hanging out with Jon Jansen, don't bring up Clinton Portis. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 3 Posted January 3 30 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I still can't believe a franchise as old as the Bears hasn't done it once. The Lions have done it 14 times. Stafford leads the way with 8, then Goff with 3, Kitna 2, and Mitchell 1. The Bears single season leader in passing yards is Erik Kramer. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 3 Posted January 3 I believe it was Chris Canty but somebody on ESPN today was talking about Mike McCarthy going to the Bears if he gets fired by the Cowboys. That would be a homerun hire for them if you ask me! Quote
RedRamage Posted January 3 Posted January 3 23 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Clinton Portis is a name I hadn't heard in a long time. he was traded to Washington in the early days of Daniel Snyder for Champ Bailey. Bailey went on to have a hall of fame career and Portis averaged about 1.5 yards per carry less with Washington. I remember when the Lions drafted Champ's brother Boss. Good times. Man, that brings back memories. I remember too that it seems the Broncos just plugged-n-played with RBs back then. Just insert any ol' back and watch him rack up the yards. 1997: Davis - 1750 yards 1998: Davis - 2008 yards 1999: Gary - 1159 yards (in just 12 games) 2000: Anderson - 1487 yards 2001: Davis - 701 yards in 8 games (Anderson with 678 as primary backup) 2002: Portis - 1508 2003: Portis - 1591 2004: Droughns - 1240 Quote
RedRamage Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: I still can't believe a franchise as old as the Bears hasn't done it once. The Lions have done it 14 times. Stafford leads the way with 8, then Goff with 3, Kitna 2, and Mitchell 1. The Bears single season leader in passing yards is Erik Kramer. Age really isn't that huge of a factor as passing for big yards is really more of a new(ish) thing in the NFL. It only happened twice before 1980, 15 times in the 80s, and then started really picking up steam in the 90s. So being a team that goes back beyond the 80s doesn't really grant you a better shot of having a 4K passer vs. more recent teams. Still, you're right that you'd like they'd accidentally hit it at least once or twice. If Kitna could do it - twice even - with the Lions, someone from the Bears should have been able to hit that number some time. https://www.profootballhof.com/football-history/4000-yard-seasons-by-quarterback/ 1 Quote
RedRamage Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: I believe it was Chris Canty but somebody on ESPN today was talking about Mike McCarthy going to the Bears if he gets fired by the Cowboys. That would be a homerun hire for them if you ask me! The guy's a proven winner. He's shown he knows how to coach in the NFC North. He's made it to the Divisional round 4 times, to the Conference Champ round 3 other times, and even won a SB. He's posted double digit winning seasons 11 times and won his division 8 times. This is a guy who knows how to get the job done. What NFL team in their right mind is going to pick an unproven guy who just got lucky to be elevated under a great coach and handed an talent laden offensive line, a stellar QB, and awesome weapons in St. Brown, Williams, Gibbs, and LaPorta. Who knows what Johnson would do without all those stars on his roster and without the guidance of Campbell? You have an unknown who's always had an abundance of talent to work with vs. a proven commodity who's shown he can get the job done. This is an easy decision Bears. McCarthy all the way. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 3 Posted January 3 13 minutes ago, RedRamage said: Age really isn't that huge of a factor as passing for big yards is really more of a new(ish) thing in the NFL. It only happened twice before 1980, 15 times in the 80s, and then started really picking up steam in the 90s. So being a team that goes back beyond the 80s doesn't really grant you a better shot of having a 4K passer vs. more recent teams. Still, you're right that you'd like they'd accidentally hit it at least once or twice. If Kitna could do it - twice even - with the Lions, someone from the Bears should have been able to hit that number some time. https://www.profootballhof.com/football-history/4000-yard-seasons-by-quarterback/ There have been teams added after the 90's like Houston with multiple 4,000 yard passers. I had thought for sure Cutler did it at least once. He had a big arm and was a gunslinger and I was sure he racked up yards. Cutler did do it once but with Denver. Their all time leading receiver is Johnny Morris who played in the 60's. St Brown is less than 300 yards away from passing him. The woeful QBing of the Bears is legendary. Quote
buddha Posted January 4 Posted January 4 9 hours ago, RedRamage said: The guy's a proven winner. He's shown he knows how to coach in the NFC North. He's made it to the Divisional round 4 times, to the Conference Champ round 3 other times, and even won a SB. He's posted double digit winning seasons 11 times and won his division 8 times. This is a guy who knows how to get the job done. What NFL team in their right mind is going to pick an unproven guy who just got lucky to be elevated under a great coach and handed an talent laden offensive line, a stellar QB, and awesome weapons in St. Brown, Williams, Gibbs, and LaPorta. Who knows what Johnson would do without all those stars on his roster and without the guidance of Campbell? You have an unknown who's always had an abundance of talent to work with vs. a proven commodity who's shown he can get the job done. This is an easy decision Bears. McCarthy all the way. you joke but i have heard multiple people say this seriously. its amazing. "he knows his way around the nfc north", what does that even mean? he knows how to get in the buildings? what difference does it make if he coached against detroit ten years ago, theyre a totally different team now. sports commentators are dumb. Quote
lordstanley Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Your morning smile. I have watched this several times. I wonder how many, if any, flags were thrown on the plays in this clip? 1 Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Aside from the hits themselves what makes it even more brutal is that so many of the stadiums were multi purpose ones where you played on concrete with just a sliver of carpet, how any of those guys could walk post career is remarkable. Quote
lordstanley Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Ravens lose Pro Bowl wide receiver Zay Flowers to a knee injury today. Hard to argue with him being in the game though, even against the lowly Browns, as the Ravens hadn't yet clinched the division and he went down in the 2nd quarter. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 5 Posted January 5 36 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Ravens lose Pro Bowl wide receiver Zay Flowers to a knee injury today. Hard to argue with him being in the game though, even against the lowly Browns, as the Ravens hadn't yet clinched the division and he went down in the 2nd quarter. Ravens still have Derrick Henry in the game with 7 minutes left up 11 points, so I don’t think they ever had any intention of sitting starters. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Flexing the Steeler/Bengals game to Saturday night made for a half empty stadium in Pittsburgh. Between the cold and the late game, fans didn't come out. I guess that's what happens when a team is in the playoffs every single season...😁😁 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I read that Jared Goff chants were heard during the broadcast of the Steelers game. Quote
number20 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Lions 2025 home games Bears (4-12) Packers (11-5) Vikings (14-2) Cowboys (7-9) Giants (3-13) Browns (3-13) Steelers (10-6) Buccaneers (9-7) or Falcons (8-8) Lions 2025 away games Bears (4-12) Packers (11-5) Vikings (14-2) Commanders (11-5) Eagles (13-3) Bengals (8-8) Ravens (11-5) Chiefs (15-1) or Chargers (10-6) Rams (10-6) or Seahawks (9-7) Quote
lordstanley Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, number20 said: Lions 2025 home games Bears (4-12) Packers (11-5) Vikings (14-2) Cowboys (7-9) Giants (3-13) Browns (3-13) Steelers (10-6) Buccaneers (9-7) or Falcons (8-8) Lions 2025 away games Bears (4-12) Packers (11-5) Vikings (14-2) Commanders (11-5) Eagles (13-3) Bengals (8-8) Ravens (11-5) Chiefs (15-1) or Chargers (10-6) Rams (10-6) or Seahawks (9-7) I wish one or two of those tough non-divisional matchups were at home instead of on the road. Quote
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