Sports_Freak Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Buffalo defers and gives up a TD. But that's OK, they have a 10% chance of getting the ball back at the end of the 2nd quarter, with under a minute left. There's only so many possessions in a game, just give one away? I can't understand that logic....it's illogical. 😆 Quote
4hzglory Posted January 12 Posted January 12 47 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Buffalo defers and gives up a TD. But that's OK, they have a 10% chance of getting the ball back at the end of the 2nd quarter, with under a minute left. There's only so many possessions in a game, just give one away? I can't understand that logic....it's illogical. 😆 Well in the CFP, both Ohio State and ND had scores at the end of the half and got the ball back to start the 2nd. ND scored again, Ohio State didn’t. The “middle 8” has been key to ND this postseason. I don’t see it as losing a possession at all-is it possible to end up 1 possession less? Sure. It’s also possible to end up with 1 more possession. To me it’s more about are you more confident in your pregame preparation or your halftime adjustments. Are you more confident in your offense at the start of the game or the 2nd half? I wonder what the stats are of teams scoring on their first possession of the game vs 1st possession of the 2nd half? Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Since I'm endorsing him that surely means his career is probably doomed now but I gotta say in the handful of times I watched him this year Bo Nix has really impressed me. Not even the statistics just his demeanor and poise out there, doesn't come across as a rookie at all. Of course he played like 10 years of college ball so that could be why. lol 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 12 Posted January 12 30 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: Well in the CFP, both Ohio State and ND had scores at the end of the half and got the ball back to start the 2nd. ND scored again, Ohio State didn’t. The “middle 8” has been key to ND this postseason. I don’t see it as losing a possession at all-is it possible to end up 1 possession less? Sure. It’s also possible to end up with 1 more possession. To me it’s more about are you more confident in your pregame preparation or your halftime adjustments. Are you more confident in your offense at the start of the game or the 2nd half? I wonder what the stats are of teams scoring on their first possession of the game vs 1st possession of the 2nd half? I guess my dislike of deferring is because of the SOL days. The games they would defer, they would be down by multiple scores by halftime. It didn't matter if they got the ball 1st in the 2nd half if they were down by 28 points. And yes, I have said if you have a great defense, go ahead and defer. But with this Lions offense? I want the ball, score and play with a lead. At least get a few 1st downs and pin the other team deep with a great punt. And I'll always say, it's giving away a possession. Give up a score and you're playing from behind before you even get the ball. And just like this Bills-Broncos game, Buffalo didn't get the ball to end the 1st half, Denver got it. And drove into FG range (but missed it.) Quote
4hzglory Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: I guess my dislike of deferring is because of the SOL days. The games they would defer, they would be down by multiple scores by halftime. It didn't matter if they got the ball 1st in the 2nd half if they were down by 28 points. And yes, I have said if you have a great defense, go ahead and defer. But with this Lions offense? I want the ball, score and play with a lead. At least get a few 1st downs and pin the other team deep with a great punt. And I'll always say, it's giving away a possession. Give up a score and you're playing from behind before you even get the ball. And just like this Bills-Broncos game, Buffalo didn't get the ball to end the 1st half, Denver got it. And drove into FG range (but missed it.) I did some looking at this season’s drives for the Lions 1st drive of game: TD on 6 FG on 2 INT on 2 -1 play and 5 plays 6 punts: 4-3 and outs, 1-6 play snd 1-7 play drive 1 drive ended on downs after 4 plays:Fake punt after MN So scored on 8 drives, 6 drives without a first down 2nd half first drives TD on 8 FG on 1 Int on 3 drives: 1, 2, and 3 play drives 1-11 play drive ending on downs 4 punts: 2-4 and outs, 1-5 play and 1 6 play drive so scored on 9 drives, 1-11 play drive ending on downs, 5 drives without a first down. 2 extra TD’s in 2nd half, another long drive, but also an extra int 2 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 12 Posted January 12 26 minutes ago, 4hzglory said: I did some looking at this season’s drives for the Lions 1st drive of game: TD on 6 FG on 2 INT on 2 -1 play and 5 plays 6 punts: 4-3 and outs, 1-6 play snd 1-7 play drive 1 drive ended on downs after 4 plays:Fake punt after MN So scored on 8 drives, 6 drives without a first down 2nd half first drives TD on 8 FG on 1 Int on 3 drives: 1, 2, and 3 play drives 1-11 play drive ending on downs 4 punts: 2-4 and outs, 1-5 play and 1 6 play drive so scored on 9 drives, 1-11 play drive ending on downs, 5 drives without a first down. 2 extra TD’s in 2nd half, another long drive, but also an extra int Good post, looks like a lot of work. People who are for deferring think it's so good to get back to back possessions, at the end of the 2nd quarter and the start of the 3rd quarter. First off, it's rare to get the ball last in the 1st half. Secondly, it's even more rare to score on both such possessions. All game long, defenses are fighting to get a turnover, they want to get the ball. To just give up a possession seems illogical to me. But I guess it's just a matter of opinion. My opinion or just a wrong opinion. 🤣🤣 1 Quote
4hzglory Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Then you get the Packers fumbling the opening kickoff. Quote
holygoat Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, 4hzglory said: Then you get the Packers fumbling the opening kickoff. Could've just taken the touchback, lmao! Quote
lordstanley Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Best strategy is to kick off to start the game and recover the fumble on the return. Best of both worlds. 7-0 Eagles. 2 Quote
Jason_R Posted January 12 Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Best strategy is to kick off to start the game and recover the fumble on the return. Best of both worlds. 7-0 Eagles. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 12 Posted January 12 24 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Best strategy is to kick off to start the game and recover the fumble on the return. Best of both worlds. 7-0 Eagles. Like I posted, it's a good strategy if you have a great defense. The Eagles have one of the best. And don't forget; Quote
holygoat Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Darius Slay picks off Love. Packers look terrible. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Good post, looks like a lot of work. People who are for deferring think it's so good to get back to back possessions, at the end of the 2nd quarter and the start of the 3rd quarter. First off, it's rare to get the ball last in the 1st half. Secondly, it's even more rare to score on both such possessions. All game long, defenses are fighting to get a turnover, they want to get the ball. To just give up a possession seems illogical to me. But I guess it's just a matter of opinion. My opinion or just a wrong opinion. 🤣🤣 I think the theory of deferring does come out of an era when the probability of scoring on any given possession was low and idea was the team comes out of the locker room a little too charged up for offensive precision, while the same is good for defensive pursuit. But offenses are so good today and you see enough games with only a couple or maybe even zero punts, that 'giving away' that 1st possession probably does make less sense than it used to. 1 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Turnovers, missed field goals, the Packers don't look sharp in this first half. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 12 Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Turnovers, missed field goals, the Packers don't look sharp in this first half. I say I want to play them. Simply for the reason is it would mean Philly has been eliminated. 😅 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 13 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: I say I want to play them. Simply for the reason is it would mean Philly has been eliminated. 😅 Philly's offense has been largely flat today too. It feels like this score should be further away than it is with more points on the board for the Eagles. Quote
lordstanley Posted January 13 Posted January 13 The NFC Championship game will be the earlier game two weeks from now. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) On 1/6/2025 at 10:50 AM, MichiganCardinal said: Coaching Carousel Predictions: New York Jets: Mike McCarthy Chicago Bears: Joe Brady New Orleans Saints: Aaron Glenn Jacksonville Jaguars: Brian Flores New England Patriots: Mike Vrabel Dallas Cowboys: Kellen Moore Cowboys job is officially open. My wildcard picks have been awful, but maybe these will be better. Realizing I didn’t name the Raiders, I think that’s where Ben goes, if he goes this cycle. But I’ll predict Pete Carroll to the Raiders. Ben will get his job eventually, but I think it’ll be a scenario where he can have his handpicked GM join him. Edited January 13 by MichiganCardinal Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 13 Posted January 13 The way Dallas handled their head coaching job is bizarre. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 13 Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The way Dallas handled their head coaching job is bizarre. As long as Jerry Jones treats the team like his toy to play GM with on weekends, they’ll never be a real contender. Quote
Nate7474 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The way Dallas handled their head coaching job is bizarre. The way Dallas handles everything is Bizarre. Jerry Jones is up there for worst owner in the NFL. Definitely top 2-3. Edited January 13 by Nate7474 Quote
Tenacious D Posted January 13 Posted January 13 21 minutes ago, Nate7474 said: The way Dallas handles everything is Bizarre. Jerry Jones is up there for worst owner in the NFL. Definitely top 2-3. A coach will only go there with no other prospects. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 13 Posted January 13 Dallas has nice offensive pieces if Ben is so inclined. It could be lethal if he could get Dak to play within the system and not try be a gunslinger. Dallas isn’t that far away from regaining form. They were hit very hard with injuries and haven’t built the roster yet to overcome. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 13 Posted January 13 I don't see it. Their offensive line isn't what it was 8 years ago, they have no receivers behind Lamb, Dwodle was decent, and Dak is the wrong side of 30 and has been slowing down with injuries. Add in the fact Jones is not a great GM, and it seems to be a pretty mediocre team. Quote
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