NFL Comments for 2024

[Mr.TaterSalad]

On 9/18/2024 at 10:57 AM, Sports_Freak said:

I thought this was parody at first but its true.

https://www.mlive.com/lions/2024/09/bill-belichick-credits-matt-patricia-for-sparking-some-of-lions-recent-success.html

Fat Patricia deserves credit alright, he gets credit for being the first coach to get blown out on Monday Night Football by a rookie QB whose now been with 4 different teams in his NFL career. So sure, I'll give Patricia that credit.

[Motor City Sonics]

10 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Fat Patricia deserves credit alright, he gets credit for being the first coach to get blown out on Monday Night Football by a rookie QB whose now been with 4 different teams in his NFL career. So sure, I'll give Patricia that credit.

Belichick making an ass of himself to defend his boy.     His errand boy.     Belichick, who never did spit without Brady and cheated as often as he could.     So tired of everyone kissing his arse. 

[KnoxP]

Delay of game against the defense? Never seen that called before this weekend and now 2x. Something about the D not getting set before the snap. Am I missing something…what is the logic? 

[holygoat]

Are the Vikings actually good?

[MichiganCardinal]

28 minutes ago, KnoxP said:

Delay of game against the defense? Never seen that called before this weekend and now 2x. Something about the D not getting set before the snap. Am I missing something…what is the logic? 

It’s a point of emphasis at the college level, not sure about NFL. They call it “stemming”. If the defense is making jerky movements at the line designed to make the offense false start, they want it called as a delay.

[MichiganCardinal]

27 minutes ago, holygoat said:

Are the Vikings actually good?

I think they’re very well coached.

Josh Dobbs turned into a pumpkin after about four games last year though, so I’ll reserve judgment until Darnold can sustain.

[Sports_Freak]

I need Travis Kelce to gain negative yards and to fumble about 6 times. He's my opponents FF TE. 😆

[Sports_Freak]

4 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

It’s a point of emphasis at the college level, not sure about NFL. They call it “stemming”. If the defense is making jerky movements at the line designed to make the offense false start, they want it called as a delay.

Yeah, they talked about it in a game earlier in the season.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Rashee Rice still playing I see. 

[RedRamage]

14 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Rashee Rice still playing I see. 

Here's a nice write up if anyone is not familiar with what Rice "allegedly" did.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2024/09/05/rashee-rice-kansas-city-chiefs/75072625007/

There two possibilities here why Rice hasn't been punished by the NFL yet:
1. Because all the injuries were classified as 'minor' the NFL isn't considering it a big deal.
2. Because it was a "stupid thing done by a young kid" (which I think is accurate) the NFL isn't concerned that this is a habitual thing or that Rice will endanger others, so they're content to let the whole thing play out in legally first, and then assign punishment after.

That said really the biggest factor here is this is a pretty "low profile" thing in terms of public awareness. I think many people just view it as and dumb thing to do, but it's not like he INTENTED to hurt someone... he didn't start fight or hit a woman. He just was driving too fast and got into an accident. No big deal.

Like Tater, I did disagree and I think it is a big deal and most of my "outrage" is because of this:

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"The occupants of the Lamborghini and the Corvette all ran from the scene without stopping to determine if anyone needed medical help or providing their information," according to the police summary.

Fortunately everyone who was hurt only had minor injuries, but Rice and the others didn't know this. They ran without checking if someone was in serious bad shape. They didn't know if someone was bleeding out. They didn't know if call for help might make the difference between a severe injury that someone could recover from or a permanent injury or death.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

15 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

Here's a nice write up if anyone is not familiar with what Rice "allegedly" did.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2024/09/05/rashee-rice-kansas-city-chiefs/75072625007/

There two possibilities here why Rice hasn't been punished by the NFL yet:
1. Because all the injuries were classified as 'minor' the NFL isn't considering it a big deal.
2. Because it was a "stupid thing done by a young kid" (which I think is accurate) the NFL isn't concerned that this is a habitual thing or that Rice will endanger others, so they're content to let the whole thing play out in legally first, and then assign punishment after.

That said really the biggest factor here is this is a pretty "low profile" thing in terms of public awareness. I think many people just view it as and dumb thing to do, but it's not like he INTENTED to hurt someone... he didn't start fight or hit a woman. He just was driving too fast and got into an accident. No big deal.

Like Tater, I did disagree and I think it is a big deal and most of my "outrage" is because of this:

Fortunately everyone who was hurt only had minor injuries, but Rice and the others didn't know this. They ran without checking if someone was in serious bad shape. They didn't know if someone was bleeding out. They didn't know if call for help might make the difference between a severe injury that someone could recover from or a permanent injury or death.

Jaemo was suspended for multiple games for the location that he mistakenly placed a bet at. Josh Gordon was suspended for an entire season for inhaling substance from a plant on his own time. Rashee Rice injures people while driving reckless in a sports car, then flees from the scene, and nothing comes of it. The NFL cares more about where someone places a non-NFL related bet and inhaling substance derived from a plant than they do the safety and welfare of others.

Edited September 23 by Mr.TaterSalad

[lordstanley]

9 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The NFL cares more about where someone places a non-NFL related bet and inhaling substance derived from a plant than they do the safety and welfare of others.

And social media cares more about a commencement address at a tiny specialty college in the heartland. 

[KnoxP]

15 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, they talked about it in a game earlier in the season.

Saw it called in both NCAA and NFL. ?  Won't be a huge deal I hope, just seems silly in this moment to hold a D responsible for causing illegal procedure if they don't enter the neutral zone. And, that's just me.

[Hongbit]

I’m in a 50 person Survivor league for money. Pick one team to win each week.  You can’t use the same team twice.  No spreads.  It couldn’t be easier.

We are not finished with week 3 and there are only 2 people left.  Even better, they both took Cincinnati tonight.  If the Bengals lose, 50 people couldn’t it make through 3 weeks picking just a single winner.  

This very much a week to week league where parity rules.  

[Sports_Freak]

15 minutes ago, KnoxP said:

Saw it called in both NCAA and NFL. ?  Won't be a huge deal I hope, just seems silly in this moment to hold a D responsible for causing illegal procedure if they don't enter the neutral zone. And, that's just me.

Too many rules give offenses unfair advantages. The NFL wants high scoring games. And then they miss obvious calls, like last night, that impact the final score. KC would have lost if there was a referee who called pass interference properly. It makes a joke out of the NFL. Especially with all the gambling advertisements.

[MichiganCardinal]

2 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

Here's a nice write up if anyone is not familiar with what Rice "allegedly" did.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2024/09/05/rashee-rice-kansas-city-chiefs/75072625007/

There two possibilities here why Rice hasn't been punished by the NFL yet:
1. Because all the injuries were classified as 'minor' the NFL isn't considering it a big deal.
2. Because it was a "stupid thing done by a young kid" (which I think is accurate) the NFL isn't concerned that this is a habitual thing or that Rice will endanger others, so they're content to let the whole thing play out in legally first, and then assign punishment after.

That said really the biggest factor here is this is a pretty "low profile" thing in terms of public awareness. I think many people just view it as and dumb thing to do, but it's not like he INTENTED to hurt someone... he didn't start fight or hit a woman. He just was driving too fast and got into an accident. No big deal.

Like Tater, I did disagree and I think it is a big deal and most of my "outrage" is because of this:

Fortunately everyone who was hurt only had minor injuries, but Rice and the others didn't know this. They ran without checking if someone was in serious bad shape. They didn't know if someone was bleeding out. They didn't know if call for help might make the difference between a severe injury that someone could recover from or a permanent injury or death.

It's all just so subjective. The Personal Conduct Policy effectively puts Goodell in the shoes of judge, jury, and executioner, where he is expected to compare apples and oranges to assign game suspensions. Except instead of apples and oranges, it's comparing domestic violence and aggravated assault/collision causing injury amongst a bunch of millionaires who pretty much all have CTE.

So instead of "fair" and "just" punishments being levied out - which is almost impossible to imagine anyway, it shouldn't be the job of the parent organization NFL to police their club's employees conduct when they're not at their job - it all comes down to making NFL owners seem like a group of people that gives a **** about anything other than lining their pockets. Spoiler alert, they don't.

And so naturally, high publicity things like a video of Ray Rice knocking out his fiancée, or Deshaun Watson getting sued for dozens of sexual assault allegations, those get punished harshly. And when it's a smaller profile thing, like Rice driving away from the scene of an accident, it's swept under the rug.

I've advocated before for abolishing the Personal Conduct Policy. Let individual teams devise manners to punish their individual players for off-the-field conduct. It will result in less suspensions, of course. The Steelers aren't suspending Cam Sutton eight games if they have their way. But let them answer for that. Some organizations will care more about doing right by the community, just like is already the case. And those that don't will be justifiably trashed in the public eye. But if I work for an employer, it's my employer who will decide whether to fire me if I get a DWI. Not a larger conglomerate organization that my employer works within.

[RedRamage]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Jaemo was suspended for multiple games for the location that he mistakenly placed a bet at. Josh Gordon was suspended for an entire season for inhaling substance from a plant on his own time. Rashee Rice injures people while driving reckless in a sports car, then flees from the scene, and nothing comes of it. The NFL cares more about where someone places a non-NFL related bet and inhaling substance derived from a plant than they do the safety and welfare of others.

First of all, you know I agree with you that Rice's conduct was horrible and I do think the NFL should be doing something.

That said, somewhat in the NFL's defense, the rules that Gordon and Jamo broke were specific NFL rules. "Don't do X or you'll get punishment Y." They may be stupid rules, but they are NFL rules and they are clearly defined.

In Rice's case it's much more subjective as @MichiganCardinal said. It's much more of: Don't do "something" that makes the NFL look bad or we'll have to do "something" about it... maybe.

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Jayden Daniel's throwing bombs on target tonight. It's very early in his career, but he looks like the real deal so far. 

[Motor City Sonics]

HOT SEAT RANKINGS

 

1.  Doug Pederson, Jacksonville

2. Mike McCarthy, Dallas

Zac Taylor is lurking

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Jayden Daniel's throwing bombs on target tonight. It's very early in his career, but he looks like the real deal so far. 

I'm watching that and thought the same thing. He looks like the type of QB who elevates limited talent around him. Pretty young team, the kids needs to learn to slide.

[Sports_Freak]

10 hours ago, RedRamage said:

First of all, you know I agree with you that Rice's conduct was horrible and I do think the NFL should be doing something.

That said, somewhat in the NFL's defense, the rules that Gordon and Jamo broke were specific NFL rules. "Don't do X or you'll get punishment Y." They may be stupid rules, but they are NFL rules and they are clearly defined.

In Rice's case it's much more subjective as @MichiganCardinal said. It's much more of: Don't do "something" that makes the NFL look bad or we'll have to do "something" about it... maybe.

 

I thought i heard that the NFL was waiting for the outcome of his court case before they took action?

[buddha]

i have no love for the artists formerly known as the redskins, but jayden daniels becoming patrick mahomes and caleb williams becoming justin fields would be pretty damn awesome.

[ben9753]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

i have no love for the artists formerly known as the redskins, but jayden daniels becoming patrick mahomes and caleb williams becoming justin fields would be pretty damn awesome.

And watch Fields become Michael Vick in Pittsburgh 

[RedRamage]

9 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

I thought i heard that the NFL was waiting for the outcome of his court case before they took action?

Any they very well might be waiting for that. But there's plenty of situations where the NFL has acted BEFORE the court case ended. Cam Sutton, for example. And there's no question Rice was involved... he's admitted to be involved. I supposed I don't know if he's admitted to leaving the scene without checking on the other cars, but he as admitted to being involved.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, RedRamage said:

Any they very well might be waiting for that. But there's plenty of situations where the NFL has acted BEFORE the court case ended. Cam Sutton, for example. And there's no question Rice was involved... he's admitted to be involved. I supposed I don't know if he's admitted to leaving the scene without checking on the other cars, but he as admitted to being involved.

Yeah. It's almost like they don't want to upset the cart. KC had that game lost Sunday night if the official would have called PI. But they ignored it. Obvious interference. I bet there was some upset gamblers...