2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[Tiger337]

I'd be OK with Diaz and his high OBP.  I don't think Goldschmidt offers much of anything at this point.  

[SoCalTiger]

Ideally they need a short term right handed hitting third baseman that could also play first. This allows him to play third while Jung gets reps in Toledo and Tork gets another look in the show and he can stay , replace Tork or get traded based on Torks and Jungs outcomes. I don't know who that is though. Justin Turner(old), Enrigio Suarez , Bohm, no idea....but not 200 million Bregman

[Shelton]

Sign Bregman. 

[Tiger337]

42 minutes ago, Shelton said:

Sign Bregman. 

Agreed.  I understand the risks, but I'd take the chance.  I don't think his 2024 season is a real decline.  

[casimir]

Hot corner chaos?

[gehringer_2]

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Sweeney a long look

Sweeney was a pleasant surprise. He's not good enough....yet, but he was better than I thought he'd be. It's one of those trap situations though - you don't want to invest a lot in a fall back if he's going to turn into a solid contributor, but you don't yet know if he will.

[RatkoVarda]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Sweeney was a pleasant surprise. He's not good enough....yet, but he was better than I thought he'd be. It's one of those trap situations though - you don't want to invest a lot in a fall back if he's going to turn into a solid contributor, but you don't yet know if he will.

easy to say, but just go get a young RH SS who can complement Sweeney to some large or small degree

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I don't even know how much of a hot take it is at this point, but I think the chances they upgrade (via free agency or trade) at 1B are way higher than 3B at this point.

which does or doesn't happen will be illuminating

[mtutiger]

2 hours ago, Shelton said:

Sign Bregman. 

There are risks, and generally am skeptical of big contracts, but he'd be worth backing the truck up for. 

With the Red Sox and Yankees in the mix, there's real challenges even if they are aggressive with him though.

Edited December 19, 2024 by mtutiger

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

whether he believes is Tork or not, Harris needs to acquire a decent alternative to protect against Tork flopping again.

right now there is no back up 1b in detroit or toledo.

if that player is Yandy Diaz or Goldschmidt, i think that tells us what Harris thinks of Tork

Personally, I wish we could sign Christian Walker, but I understand not wanting to pay draft capital to do so.

[alex]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Personally, I wish we could sign Christian Walker, but I understand not wanting to pay draft capital to do so.

Just curious, what would you offer Walker?

[alex]

17 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

There are risks, and generally am skeptical of big contracts, but he'd be worth backing the truck up for. 

With the Red Sox and Yankees in the mix, there's real challenges even if they are aggressive with him though.

Agreed. There is risk with any FA player in his early 30's. With said, if you come across a good FA that is in their mid 20's that often means many teams will be in on him and it may take more of the 7-10 deal to get something done.

ALL FA players have risk. Most all teams with any kind of payroll have (and know) they will have some payroll that is burdensome at some point. If the Tigers are considered mid market, then they too will have some lost payroll at most times.

The thing about Bregman, IF they can get him where it is not outrageous (and SHarris will not go that far nor should he, IMHO) - is that he brings many intangibles with his game as well. He could be like a player-coach all the into his last years. Heck, he could even be an 'organization' type guy as well afterwards. I do think they are really looking at this - but will only go so far.

[chasfh]

12 minutes ago, alex said:

Just curious, what would you offer Walker?

I think we could get him for three years, so I would be comfortable with that.

[gehringer_2]

31 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Personally, I wish we could sign Christian Walker, but I understand not wanting to pay draft capital to do so.

And the line forms on the left. Seem to be a lot of people chasing him.

[papalawrence]

SI is suggesting the Tigers consider Carlos Santana. He's 38 but can still field and hit 23 HR with 109 ops+. He seems to crush Detroit. Switch hitter. Anyway, thought it was an interesting idea.

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/why-signing-carlos-santana-makes-perfect-sense-for-detroit-tigers

[SoCalTiger]

3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Agreed.  I understand the risks, but I'd take the chance.  I don't think his 2024 season is a real decline.  

You like him for 7-8yrs 210/240 so 30/yr for seasons 31,32,33,34,35,36, 37/38 ?

 

 

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

SI is suggesting the Tigers consider Carlos Santana. He's 38 but can still field and hit 23 HR with 109 ops+. He seems to crush Detroit. Switch hitter. Anyway, thought it was an interesting idea.

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/why-signing-carlos-santana-makes-perfect-sense-for-detroit-tigers

Carlos is a  steady guy. Interesting that he made himself into a decent fielder relatively late in his career. He was pretty bad when he was a young player with Clev. Weakest thing with CS is that he is a natural RHH with a pretty substantial platoon split so if you are looking to add a better stick against RHP, he's maybe not the best choice.

[Tiger337]

This is interesting and sounds like something Harris/Hinch would consider:

CAA, the agency representing right-hander Michael Lorenzen, has been marketing him as a two-way player in conversations with teams this winter.

The idea isn’t necessarily for Lorenzen to see much time at the plate, it’s to potentially circumvent the limit of 13 pitchers that each MLB team is allowed to carry on their roster. If Lorenzen appears in 20 games in the outfield or as a designated hitter (and gets at least three plate appearances in each), he would gain two-way status for the 2025 season and the following year, giving the team that signs him extra roster flexibility. It’s a small wrinkle, sure, but one that could be intriguing to teams that are interested in the additional roster maneuverability.

1h ago

Source: Ken Rosenthal

Edited December 20, 2024 by Tiger337

[alex]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

I think we could get him for three years, so I would be comfortable with that.

I do agree with the three years, but IMHO it would seem so would most teams pursuing him. How much might you max out at for 3 years? 60, 65, 70M total? Maybe even start the salary higher for 2 years and then a bit lower for the third?

IF he has a good market, and I would think he does, he will no doubt be able to choose his location. Heck, it may even take a 4th yr if the bidding is strong and that to me is a bit too much.

 

[lordstanley]

Posted this in the Red Wings forum as well.

 

 

 

 

 

[roarintiger1]

16 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

This is interesting and sounds like something Harris/Hinch would consider:

CAA, the agency representing right-hander Michael Lorenzen, has been marketing him as a two-way player in conversations with teams this winter.

The idea isn’t necessarily for Lorenzen to see much time at the plate, it’s to potentially circumvent the limit of 13 pitchers that each MLB team is allowed to carry on their roster. If Lorenzen appears in 20 games in the outfield or as a designated hitter (and gets at least three plate appearances in each), he would gain two-way status for the 2025 season and the following year, giving the team that signs him extra roster flexibility. It’s a small wrinkle, sure, but one that could be intriguing to teams that are interested in the additional roster maneuverability.

1h ago

Source: Ken Rosenthal

Would not be a bad move for the Tigers.  They should sign him and let him hit.  Lorenzen would probably hit better than 3 or 4 of the guys who batted for the Tigers last year. 

Edited December 20, 2024 by roarintiger1

[Motor City Sonics]

My guess is that Bregman is over estimating his value by a lot and nobody is going near him.  

[RatkoVarda]

Fangraphs has 2025 projections out and Dingler and Navigato are projected to be the 3rd and 8th most productive position players by WAR. That's .... interesting.

[Tenacious D]

Rumor mill in Bham is that Chris Ilitch is getting a divorce.  Let’s hope he has to sell the team—Mat Ishbia would be a great owner (if he doesn’t buy the Twins first)

[casimir]

3 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Rumor mill in Bham is that Chris Ilitch is getting a divorce.  Let’s hope he has to sell the team—Mat Ishbia would be a great owner (if he doesn’t buy the Twins first)

Doesn’t Ishbia have baggage?