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Regarding Charlie Maxwell, on July 29, 1962 my dad’s Elks Club drove all of us kids from Auburn, Indiana in a rented school bus to Chicago to see a doubleheader vs. the Yankees, where the Sox’s player

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Why would we want Arenado for 3 seasons?  I like what Scotty had to day today regarding Bregman:

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I don't want to see an "evaluation year".  They've been doing that for like 7 years now.  I want to see a competive team.  They can be reasonably competitive and continue to develop young players at t

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Ideally they need a short term right handed hitting third baseman that could also play first. This allows him to play third while Jung gets reps in Toledo and Tork gets another look in the show and he can stay , replace Tork or get traded based on Torks and Jungs outcomes. I don't know who that is though. Justin Turner(old), Enrigio Suarez , Bohm, no idea....but not 200 million Bregman

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  On 12/19/2024 at 3:12 PM, Tiger337 said:

Sweeney a long look

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Sweeney was a pleasant surprise. He's not good enough....yet, but he was better than I thought he'd be. It's one of those trap situations though - you don't want to invest a lot in a fall back if he's going to turn into a solid contributor, but you don't yet know if he will.

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  On 12/19/2024 at 9:04 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Sweeney was a pleasant surprise. He's not good enough....yet, but he was better than I thought he'd be. It's one of those trap situations though - you don't want to invest a lot in a fall back if he's going to turn into a solid contributor, but you don't yet know if he will.

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easy to say, but just go get a young RH SS who can complement Sweeney to some large or small degree

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  On 12/19/2024 at 7:11 PM, Shelton said:

Sign Bregman. 

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There are risks, and generally am skeptical of big contracts, but he'd be worth backing the truck up for. 

With the Red Sox and Yankees in the mix, there's real challenges even if they are aggressive with him though.

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  On 12/19/2024 at 3:11 PM, RatkoVarda said:

whether he believes is Tork or not, Harris needs to acquire a decent alternative to protect against Tork flopping again.

right now there is no back up 1b in detroit or toledo.

if that player is Yandy Diaz or Goldschmidt, i think that tells us what Harris thinks of Tork

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Personally, I wish we could sign Christian Walker, but I understand not wanting to pay draft capital to do so.

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  On 12/19/2024 at 9:14 PM, mtutiger said:

There are risks, and generally am skeptical of big contracts, but he'd be worth backing the truck up for. 

With the Red Sox and Yankees in the mix, there's real challenges even if they are aggressive with him though.

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Agreed. There is risk with any FA player in his early 30's. With said, if you come across a good FA that is in their mid 20's that often means many teams will be in on him and it may take more of the 7-10 deal to get something done.

ALL FA players have risk. Most all teams with any kind of payroll have (and know) they will have some payroll that is burdensome at some point. If the Tigers are considered mid market, then they too will have some lost payroll at most times.

The thing about Bregman, IF they can get him where it is not outrageous (and SHarris will not go that far nor should he, IMHO) - is that he brings many intangibles with his game as well. He could be like a player-coach all the into his last years. Heck, he could even be an 'organization' type guy as well afterwards. I do think they are really looking at this - but will only go so far.

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  On 12/19/2024 at 11:31 PM, papalawrence said:

SI is suggesting the Tigers consider Carlos Santana. He's 38 but can still field and hit 23 HR with 109 ops+. He seems to crush Detroit. Switch hitter. Anyway, thought it was an interesting idea.

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/why-signing-carlos-santana-makes-perfect-sense-for-detroit-tigers

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Carlos is a  steady guy. Interesting that he made himself into a decent fielder relatively late in his career. He was pretty bad when he was a young player with Clev. Weakest thing with CS is that he is a natural RHH with a pretty substantial platoon split so if you are looking to add a better stick against RHP, he's maybe not the best choice.

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This is interesting and sounds like something Harris/Hinch would consider:

CAA, the agency representing right-hander Michael Lorenzen, has been marketing him as a two-way player in conversations with teams this winter.
The idea isn’t necessarily for Lorenzen to see much time at the plate, it’s to potentially circumvent the limit of 13 pitchers that each MLB team is allowed to carry on their roster. If Lorenzen appears in 20 games in the outfield or as a designated hitter (and gets at least three plate appearances in each), he would gain two-way status for the 2025 season and the following year, giving the team that signs him extra roster flexibility. It’s a small wrinkle, sure, but one that could be intriguing to teams that are interested in the additional roster maneuverability.
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  On 12/19/2024 at 9:44 PM, chasfh said:

I think we could get him for three years, so I would be comfortable with that.

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I do agree with the three years, but IMHO it would seem so would most teams pursuing him. How much might you max out at for 3 years? 60, 65, 70M total? Maybe even start the salary higher for 2 years and then a bit lower for the third?

IF he has a good market, and I would think he does, he will no doubt be able to choose his location. Heck, it may even take a 4th yr if the bidding is strong and that to me is a bit too much.

 

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  On 12/20/2024 at 12:13 AM, Tiger337 said:

This is interesting and sounds like something Harris/Hinch would consider:

CAA, the agency representing right-hander Michael Lorenzen, has been marketing him as a two-way player in conversations with teams this winter.
The idea isn’t necessarily for Lorenzen to see much time at the plate, it’s to potentially circumvent the limit of 13 pitchers that each MLB team is allowed to carry on their roster. If Lorenzen appears in 20 games in the outfield or as a designated hitter (and gets at least three plate appearances in each), he would gain two-way status for the 2025 season and the following year, giving the team that signs him extra roster flexibility. It’s a small wrinkle, sure, but one that could be intriguing to teams that are interested in the additional roster maneuverability.
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Would not be a bad move for the Tigers.  They should sign him and let him hit.  Lorenzen would probably hit better than 3 or 4 of the guys who batted for the Tigers last year. 

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