casimir Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Now this is a terrible thing to say about high-level athletes. No way are they drinking champagne. It’s protein infused champagne. Quote
casimir Posted January 8 Posted January 8 6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: If they have't extended Skubal by now I think the odds are he's gone when his deal is up. It's just cooked into the current system. To me that's just a base assumption you have to accept Riley is a tough call, between his style of play, the injuries he's already had and the brutal way he torques his back on his swing I'm guessing they they still have a measure of 'wait and see' in any plans to extend him. Agreed on both. And we don’t know what they want personally either. Skubal is from the Paciifc time zone area, maybe he’d like to be out there. Isn’t there a team in Los Angeles that has beaucoup buckaroos? I want to see Greene get through a season healthy. And who knows, maybe he’s got designs on being elsewhere, too. Quote
chasfh Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, casimir said: Agreed on both. And we don’t know what they want personally either. Skubal is from the Paciifc time zone area, maybe he’d like to be out there. Isn’t there a team in Los Angeles that has beaucoup buckaroos? There are two of them. Or at least two with "Los Angeles" in the name. Quote
casimir Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: There are two of them. Or at least two with "Los Angeles" in the name. Yeah, well, one is throwing cash around like an athlete does on hookers, blow, and protein infused champagne. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted January 9 Posted January 9 27 minutes ago, casimir said: Yeah, well, one is throwing cash around like an athlete does on hookers, blow, and protein infused champagne. They have both thrown a bunch of cash around—Josh Hamilton and Albert Pujols and Justin Upton in the past, also Trout and Rendon, a very average Kikuchi just recently. They have no problem spending Arte's dinero. Of course, only a couple other teams can even dream of keeping up with the Dodgers, and the Angels ain't quite one. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, casimir said: Yeah, well, one is throwing cash around like an athlete does on hookers, blow, and protein infused champagne. Reminds me of Keith Richard's comment when asked how he could be near bankruptcy after earning so much $ with the Stones " Well, he said, I spent quite a lot on drugs and women and wasted the rest ". 1 Quote
theroundsquare Posted January 9 Posted January 9 A lot like George Best: ‘I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.’ 1 2 Quote
Edman85 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Toddwert said: the Tigers Minor league guys talk to Scott Harris Harris nerded out in there pretty good. I thought they did a good job getting him to discuss things other entities haven't gotten out of him. Quote
oblong Posted January 9 Posted January 9 The folks are saying that Mize and the Tigers sette on $2.34M deal. Quote
Toddwert Posted January 9 Posted January 9 41 minutes ago, oblong said: The folks are saying that Mize and the Tigers sette on $2.34M deal. Rodgers too for 2.64 Million Quote
RatkoVarda Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) Tigers Tarik Skubal (4.114): $10.15MM agreement today (per Jon Heyman of the New York Post) Casey Mize (4.111): $2.34MM agreement reached today (via Mark Feinsand of MLB.com) Jake Rogers (4.040): $2.64MM agreement reached today (via FanSided’s Robert Murray) Will Vest (3.100): $1.4MM agreement today (per Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press) Zach McKinstry (3.099): $1.65MM agreement reached in November Jason Foley (3.033): $3.15MM agreement today (per Petzold) Matt Vierling (3.026): $3.005MM agreement today (per Petzold) Andy Ibanez (2.170): $1.4MM agreement reached in November Beau Brieske (2.134): Edited January 9 by RatkoVarda Quote
RatkoVarda Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Skubal came in higher (+2M) than predicted. Not sure if anything can be read into that. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 29 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: Skubal came in higher (+2M) than predicted. Not sure if anything can be read into that. FWIW, I also saw Skubal projected at $11M last week. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said: Skubal came in higher (+2M) than predicted. Not sure if anything can be read into that. Skubal has been fantastic. I’m glad they aren’t nickel and diming him. Hopefully it will be a great final two years with him here. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 6 hours ago, Edman85 said: Harris nerded out in there pretty good. I thought they did a good job getting him to discuss things other entities haven't gotten out of him. It was interesting to hear him talk about trying to get guys who were having success in the minors to fix things before they were exposed at the next level, holding back Madden because he hadn't, and then thinking about the contrast to Torkelson, who the previous regime kept promoting on the basis of his ability to hit the long ball without ever forcing him to become a better hitter. I also wonder if Torkelson is or is not in the group of guys who he referenced as 'coming back' from their private coaches to more reliance on the team's people. Quote
papalawrence Posted January 9 Posted January 9 In 2 years Skubal to LAD for 10/800 with 75% deferrals paid out 20 million a year for 40 years. Of course I'm kidding......sort of. Quote
buddha Posted January 10 Posted January 10 21 hours ago, theroundsquare said: A lot like George Best: ‘I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.’ god bless george best. united united united til i die. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 10 Posted January 10 I hope Harris is working as hard as the posters on MTS who are checking for ANY Tiger moves being made (or not) several times a day on this site...🤣🤣 2 Quote
Tigermojo Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Updated from MLBTR: Tarik Skubal (4.114): $10.15MM agreement today (per Jon Heyman of the New York Post) Casey Mize (4.111): $2.34MM agreement reached today (via Mark Feinsand of MLB.com) Jake Rogers (4.040): $2.64MM agreement reached today (via FanSided’s Robert Murray) Will Vest (3.100): $1.4MM agreement today (per Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press) Zach McKinstry (3.099): $1.65MM agreement reached in November Jason Foley (3.033): $3.15MM agreement today (per Petzold) Matt Vierling (3.026): $3.005MM agreement today (per Petzold) Andy Ibanez (2.170): $1.4MM agreement reached in November Beau Brieske (2.134): $1.025MM agreement today (per Petzold) Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) A name I wouldn’t mind seeing us bring in is Tommy Kahnle. Considering Breiske and Vest have power fastballs, it’d be a good mix to have a changeup specialist in the pen too. He’s on the older side but that means we could probably get him on a shorter or cheaper deal. Edited January 10 by monkeytargets39 Quote
chasfh Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I’m wondering whether Harris is strongly considering how injecting a veteran with a big money contract is going to affect that balance. We had a team making the playoffs last year that was literally half rookies. All the big money guys we had signed for the season—Baez, Flaherty, Maeda, Canha, the $10+MM guys—were all either hurt or traded by the time the Tigers started really winning. The team that went 31-13 to finish the season were a bunch of kids cobbled together mainly through the draft, waiver wire, sell-off deadline deals, and MiLB FA signings. There was a magic in the way they all came together to win together. Do you think Harris is considering the way a big money veteran will affect the way the team works together? Or do you think he’s, like, throw everything he can into win now and worry about tomorrow tomorrow, he might not even have a job after next year? Quote
Tiger337 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: I’m wondering whether Harris is strongly considering how injecting a veteran with a big money contract is going to affect that balance. We had a team making the playoffs last year that was literally half rookies. All the big money guys we had signed for the season—Baez, Flaherty, Maeda, Canha, the $10+MM guys—were all either hurt or traded by the time the Tigers started really winning. The team that went 31-13 to finish the season were a bunch of kids cobbled together mainly through the draft, waiver wire, sell-off deadline deals, and MiLB FA signings. There was a magic in the way they all came together to win together. Do you think Harris is considering the way a big money veteran will affect the way the team works together? Or do you think he’s, like, throw everything he can into win now and worry about tomorrow tomorrow, he might not even have a job after next year? I am sure he is considering that and would want to bring in someone who he thought worked well with young players. He also surely realizes that team chemistry is not always sustainable from year to year if you don't have enough talent. Hinch actually suggested that in the inerview with him and Harris early in the off-season. 1 Quote
1776 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 I have been wondering for a bit now if Harris is quietly having conversations with the Boras/Bregman camp in search of a more amicable deal. Last year Boras had to give some with several of his clients when the market turned quiet after the new year. (Chapman/Montgomery/Snell) This theory of mine is about a week old but it’s starting to grow on me. I can’t imagine that he’d consider this team to be much improved at all, as is, from last year’s team. The other option is a formidable trade with another team. That was my initial expectation early on but I’m not as sure of that now based on Harris’ record as a POBO/ GM. Quote
chasfh Posted January 11 Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, 1776 said: I have been wondering for a bit now if Harris is quietly having conversations with the Boras/Bregman camp in search of a more amicable deal. Last year Boras had to give some with several of his clients when the market turned quiet after the new year. (Chapman/Montgomery/Snell) This theory of mine is about a week old but it’s starting to grow on me. I can’t imagine that he’d consider this team to be much improved at all, as is, from last year’s team. The other option is a formidable trade with another team. That was my initial expectation early on but I’m not as sure of that now based on Harris’ record as a POBO/ GM. The internal improvement is a huge wild card. Is second half Parker for real? Can Trey Sweeney improve by a step or two? Can Colt Keith move up a notch or two with the stick? Can Jace Jung put it together at third? Can Casey Mize and Spencer Torkelson find whatever it is the whole world thought they had when they went 1-1? Is there another Tyler Holton lurking on the 40? Those might be the kinds of considerations that are going into Harris’s thinking as he’s considering roster additions from outside. I’d be surprised if Harris threw more than three years at Bregman (or if he signed Santander at all), and I’d be equally surprised if Bregman wanted to stay in Detroit more than a year anyway. Quote
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