gehringer_2 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:24 PM, chasfh said: Congratulations to 2025 All-Star starter Alex Faedo. Expand I've been waiting for them to make a move to shore up catcher behind Rogers other than Dingler, but this kid is 20 in A ball so he's not that guy. Went to Australia to play this winter - certainly shows some ambition. Quote
1776 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:16 PM, monkeytargets39 said: Less than 3 weeks until Spring Training games….which player is going to be the HMCBSOHLA winner? (Honorary Miguel Cabrera Best Shape Of His Life Award) Expand Additionally, we’ll soon see this years 💩 spring training hats! I’m sure they won’t disappoint. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:16 PM, monkeytargets39 said: Less than 3 weeks until Spring Training games….which player is going to be the HMCBSOHLA winner? (Honorary Miguel Cabrera Best Shape Of His Life Award) Expand We used to have a thread that counted down the days until spring training. But you mentioned 3 weeks so I'll go with that since I have no idea of the actual remaining days; Quote
Sports_Freak Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:53 PM, 1776 said: Additionally, we’ll soon see this years 💩 spring training hats! I’m sure they won’t disappoint. Expand I hear they may be rainbow pride hats. 😅 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 9:20 PM, Sports_Freak said: We used to have a thread that counted down the days until spring training. But you mentioned 3 weeks so I'll go with that since I have no idea of the actual remaining days; Expand First game is the 22nd, so it’s 19 Quote
chasfh Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) On 2/3/2025 at 9:26 PM, monkeytargets39 said: First game is the 22nd, so it’s 19 Expand Edited February 3 by chasfh 1 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 9:35 PM, chasfh said: Expand Please don’t use Maeda tomorrow…. Quote
chasfh Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 9:45 PM, monkeytargets39 said: Please don’t use Maeda tomorrow…. Expand no promises ... 2 Quote
KL2 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:50 PM, gehringer_2 said: I've been waiting for them to make a move to shore up catcher behind Rogers other than Dingler, but this kid is 20 in A ball so he's not that guy. Went to Australia to play this winter - certainly shows some ambition. Expand They resigned Nido Quote
Edman85 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 10:27 PM, SoCalTiger said: Who gets cut for the Captain? Expand For Flaherty? Either Englert/Kreidler, or they draw out the physical until camp breaks next week and use an SGL/Baez/Lange 60-Day move to clear space. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) On 2/3/2025 at 10:11 PM, KL2 said: They resigned Nido Expand Oh boy 🫤 Edited February 3 by gehringer_2 Quote
Tenacious D Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/3/2025 at 8:47 PM, romad1 said: When you say unlimited...would I be able to build a bridge across the Atlantic Ocean with it? And how would the vehicles drive on that with all the garlic butter? Expand Not sure, but thats a world I want to live in 1 Quote
chasfh Posted February 4 Posted February 4 OK, here is a completely wild contract idea that I’m sure no one’s thinking about and would never be offered. But tell me whether do you think this doesn’t make sense, and then tell me why not. Offer Bregman 6/180. Front-load it to be 40 in each of the first two years, and 25 in each of the last four. Give him a player option after the first year, and give us a team option after the second year. If Bregman declines the option after year one and the Tigers exercise the option after year two, the last four years become guaranteed. This gives Bregman a super high salary for this season, and if he slays, he can opt out and try his luck on the market again. We will have gotten a tremendous season, and we can keep our current prospects in the wings to try again in 2026. If Bregman does poorly enough to not exercise his player option, he could come back for another year, and if he slays, we can then pick up the rest of the contract guaranteed, and if he doesn’t, we can let him go. It would have to be basically an All-Star season in year two for us to pick it up. Then I feel like we could get close to pretty good value from him for his remaining years here at the price of 4/100. I doubt he’s going to have a Javy drop off because his skill set is much more solid than Javy’s was when he came here. This won’t happen, of course, but tell me why this won’t work. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:21 AM, chasfh said: but tell me why this won’t work Expand just one question: has a Boras client ever signed a contract with a team option? Serious question - I have no idea but I think it possible the answer is never, and if that's the case that would be your answer. Quote
casimir Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:21 AM, chasfh said: OK, here is a completely wild contract idea that I’m sure no one’s thinking about and would never be offered. But tell me whether do you think this doesn’t make sense, and then tell me why not. Offer Bregman 6/180. Front-load it to be 40 in each of the first two years, and 25 in each of the last four. Give him a player option after the first year, and give us a team option after the second year. If Bregman declines the option after year one and the Tigers exercise the option after year two, the last four years become guaranteed. This gives Bregman a super high salary for this season, and if he slays, he can opt out and try his luck on the market again. We will have gotten a tremendous season, and we can keep our current prospects in the wings to try again in 2026. If Bregman does poorly enough to not exercise his player option, he could come back for another year, and if he slays, we can then pick up the rest of the contract guaranteed, and if he doesn’t, we can let him go. It would have to be basically an All-Star season in year two for us to pick it up. Then I feel like we could get close to pretty good value from him for his remaining years here at the price of 4/100. I doubt he’s going to have a Javy drop off because his skill set is much more solid than Javy’s was when he came here. This won’t happen, of course, but tell me why this won’t work. Expand I do like the idea of front loading contracts such that the salary and expected production are more in line with each other over the life of the contract on an aging player. Quote
casimir Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 6:59 PM, monkeytargets39 said: Faedo to the Rays for Enderson Delgado- 19 year old catcher. Faedo will morph into a perennial all star now Expand Shades of Tyler Alexander. Quote
Tigermojo Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:59 AM, gehringer_2 said: just one question: has a Boras client ever signed a contract with a team option? Serious question - I have no idea but I think it possible the answer is never, and if that's the case that would be your answer. Expand I think the Boras four all had opt outs last year didn't they? Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 1:05 AM, casimir said: Shades of Tyler Alexander. Expand Or Carlos Pena, or Isaac Paredes, or Matt Joyce, or Willy Adames…. Quote
Edman85 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 There's some weirdness in Flaherty's AAV that could lead to quite the discount next year due to the "Valley Charge." Might come in handy if the Tigers might be pushing close to the CBT next year, which they might with a Bregman signing or a signing or two next year. Greene hits arbitration. Skubal hits Arb 5. Long story short, Flaherty's AAV this year will actually be 27.5M, with next year being his salary minus 7.5, meaning if he declines, the Tigers get a 7.5M discount on their AAV calculation. (I'm awaiting confirmation on what happens if his contract incentives push his option year up to 80%, thus wiping out the valley tax) This contract could be signaling that they are planning to be considering the tax next year. 1 Quote
Tenacious D Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:21 AM, chasfh said: OK, here is a completely wild contract idea that I’m sure no one’s thinking about and would never be offered. But tell me whether do you think this doesn’t make sense, and then tell me why not. Offer Bregman 6/180. Front-load it to be 40 in each of the first two years, and 25 in each of the last four. Give him a player option after the first year, and give us a team option after the second year. If Bregman declines the option after year one and the Tigers exercise the option after year two, the last four years become guaranteed. This gives Bregman a super high salary for this season, and if he slays, he can opt out and try his luck on the market again. We will have gotten a tremendous season, and we can keep our current prospects in the wings to try again in 2026. If Bregman does poorly enough to not exercise his player option, he could come back for another year, and if he slays, we can then pick up the rest of the contract guaranteed, and if he doesn’t, we can let him go. It would have to be basically an All-Star season in year two for us to pick it up. Then I feel like we could get close to pretty good value from him for his remaining years here at the price of 4/100. I doubt he’s going to have a Javy drop off because his skill set is much more solid than Javy’s was when he came here. This won’t happen, of course, but tell me why this won’t work. Expand A lot of money and effort for a guy who has not hit in Comerica in his career. The Astros are laughing—they got max value out of his arb years when he was at his best. Now he’s on the decline and wants to be rewarded for his best seasons past. There is a reason the Astros moved on from him quickly. F him. Let him continue to decline with some other team. Quote
4hzglory Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 1:10 AM, Edman85 said: There's some weirdness in Flaherty's AAV that could lead to quite the discount next year due to the "Valley Charge." Might come in handy if the Tigers might be pushing close to the CBT next year, which they might with a Bregman signing or a signing or two next year. Greene hits arbitration. Skubal hits Arb 5. Long story short, Flaherty's AAV this year will actually be 27.5M, with next year being his salary minus 7.5, meaning if he declines, the Tigers get a 7.5M discount on their AAV calculation. (I'm awaiting confirmation on what happens if his contract incentives push his option year up to 80%, thus wiping out the valley tax) This contract could be signaling that they are planning to be considering the tax next year. Expand Could it be the $20 mil option if he gets 15 starts is actually 19.75 mil (or 19.99mil) to stay under 80%? (Or this year is $25,000,001?) Quote
Cruzer1 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/3/2025 at 7:27 PM, IdahoBert said: A catcher for Faedo. I guess you can never have too many catchers. Expand And I think the Tigers are loaded at catcher. Quote
Tenacious D Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) The guy in the top RH corner would be a nice RH platoon option with Carp. Edited February 4 by Tenacious D Quote
chasfh Posted February 4 Posted February 4 On 2/4/2025 at 12:59 AM, gehringer_2 said: just one question: has a Boras client ever signed a contract with a team option? Serious question - I have no idea but I think it possible the answer is never, and if that's the case that would be your answer. Expand We already it’s not going to happen for that and other reasons. I’m looking for logical flaws if you have them. Quote
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