2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[alex]

17 hours ago, chasfh said:

OK, here is a completely wild contract idea that I’m sure no one’s thinking about and would never be offered. But tell me whether do you think this doesn’t make sense, and then tell me why not.

Offer Bregman 6/180. Front-load it to be 40 in each of the first two years, and 25 in each of the last four. Give him a player option after the first year, and give us a team option after the second year. If Bregman declines the option after year one and the Tigers exercise the option after year two, the last four years become guaranteed.

This gives Bregman a super high salary for this season, and if he slays, he can opt out and try his luck on the market again. We will have gotten a tremendous season, and we can keep our current prospects in the wings to try again in 2026.

If Bregman does poorly enough to not exercise his player option, he could come back for another year, and if he slays, we can then pick up the rest of the contract guaranteed, and if he doesn’t, we can let him go. It would have to be basically an All-Star season in year two for us to pick it up. Then I feel like we could get close to pretty good value from him for his remaining years here at the price of 4/100. I doubt he’s going to have a Javy drop off because his skill set is much more solid than Javy’s was when he came here.

This won’t happen, of course, but tell me why this won’t work.

I like the thinking. I would also say that the Tigers have looked/asked Alex (Boras) about many ideas... something like this may well be one of them. Nothing to not like. Though if Alex, a one year opt out with Detroit may not make too much sense because of the park - and he would be one year older next FA season. An opt out with Boston or Toronto would make more sense. With said any good GM/staff can see what a particular ballpark might do in that regard - and add to the fact that Alex will be one year older.

[Tigeraholic1]

 

[RedRamage]

30 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

You can't win a championship with Zach Short on your roster.  

It still bums me that there's never been (at least according to baseball reference) a 2nd baseman named Second.

[RedRamage]

10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

This isn't a knock you TA, but the article is nothing but conjectures, maybes, possiblies, and we-don't-knows. It's just a long article saying: "There probably no real impact, but we don't know."

I think it is worth pointing out that the divorce papers were filed in late August, so this isn't any surprise and all off season has progressed knowing that the divorce was in the works.

[gehringer_2]

17 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

If there were any effects they would be more likely for the Wings than the Tigers. The Trust structure very likely insulates Chris' role as managing trustee from the details of however ownership/beneficiary shares might shift. He could theoretically have no ownership stake in the trust at all and still remain managing trustee. I would have to guess bigger changes could be at play for the Wings when Marion passes.

Edited Tuesday at 05:53 PM by gehringer_2

[Tenacious D]

25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

If there were any effects they would be more likely for the Wings than the Tigers. The Trust structure very likely insulates Chris' role as managing trustee from the details of however ownership/beneficiary shares might shift. He could theoretically have no ownership stake in the trust at all and still remain managing trustee. I would have to guess bigger changes could be at play for the Wings when Marion passes.

I wish they would sell to Ishbia or Gilbert.  Either would spend like Mike did in the 2000’s

[Tenacious D]

It was mentioned we’re thin at C—any interest in bringing Old Friend, James McCann, back as insurance.

He’s currently a free agent and had a solid season (by catcher standards) last year.

McCosky would cream his jeans 

[RatkoVarda]

I don't think Plays The Right Way would accept a minor league deal to go to Toledo.

[Edman85]

We aren't thin at catcher.

[Tenacious D]

5 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

We aren't thin at catcher.

For next season, we are.  Dingler still unproven (though optimistic) and we’re a Rogers injury from Brian Servan or Tomas Nido getting extensive playing time.

Much different situation from last season.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

You can't win a championship with Zach Short on your roster.  

You're overthinking it.

[chasfh]

23 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

I wish they would sell to Ishbia or Gilbert.  Either would spend like Mike did in the 2000’s

I wouldn't want an owner that spent like Mike did.

[Motor City Sonics]

I'm thinking it's Bregman to Detroit - 2 year deal for $62 million with a player opt-out after a year. 

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, RedRamage said:

It still bums me that there's never been (at least according to baseball reference) a 2nd baseman named Second.

What.

 

 

Get it?

[Motor City Sonics]

20 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

We aren't thin at catcher.

Just because Jake Rogers has a pudgy-looking face doesn't mean he's fat. 

 

[Tigermojo]

32 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Just because Jake Rogers has a pudgy-looking face doesn't mean he's fat. 

 

 

[KL2]

51 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

For next season, we are.  Dingler still unproven (though optimistic) and we’re a Rogers injury from Brian Servan or Tomas Nido getting extensive playing time.

Much different situation from last season.

Where are you gonna roster a mccann? 

[mtutiger]

The Astros appear to be out on Bregman, per Chandler Rome (going off of Dana Brown's comments)

[Arlington]

 

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

The main reason for the divorce, I understand, is that Chris Ilitch's wife felt she had no identity in the relationship.  I hope she can overcome that and I wish the former wife of Chris Ilitch all the best going forward.

Edited Tuesday at 08:45 PM by Arlington
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[chasfh]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

The Astros appear to be out on Bregman, per Chandler Rome (going off of Dana Brown's comments)

I suspect they either pulled the 6/156 off the table, or it wasn't on the table in the first place. Maybe we can get something in place that hooks us for no more than two years, if that.

I can't help but believe he'd much rather go to Boston and play second, though.

[IdahoBert]

I read that article about the divorce and was surprised at how the Red Wings are more highly valued as a property than the Tigers. 
 

[Motor City Sonics]

2 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

 

But he was safe !!!!

You want a little extra on your catcher.    It's no coincidence that two former guys named "Pudge" are in the Hall Of Fame and they are both Catchers.  

[RandyMarsh]

I'm a bit concerned about Bregman going forward given his subpar season and age but unless he pulls a complete Javy he should still be an upgrade for the Tigers and given that I'm hoping we sign him. A couple years down the road we may have egg on our face but I'll cross that bridge when the time comes. 

[chasfh]

35 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

 I'll cross that bridge when the time comes. 

Just like we did with Miggy and like we did with Zimmermann and like we're doing with Javy.

At least we (barely) escaped doing it with Prince.

[gehringer_2]

21 minutes ago, chasfh said:

At least we (barely) escaped doing it with Prince.

Partial escape?  Didn't we pick up some of Prince's salary to move him?