2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[RandyMarsh]

25 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

We were warned about Kinsler's home/road splits and that he wouldn't hit in Comerica.  

Yeah the thing about h/r splits is that in general players tend to hit better at home regardless of their home park.

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

We were warned about Kinsler's home/road splits and that he wouldn't hit in Comerica.  

Almost like the sample sizes aren't significant or something...

[papalawrence]

2 hours ago, 1776 said:

Broken record here:

Don’t want Bregman wearing the Old English D. A platoon will work for me. 

Is it a disco record?

[SoCalTiger]

Austin Hays..lefty basher..off the board for 5 million...Grisheck (sp?) still left and with Verling playing third he fits. F BreGGIe. Get Grisheck, reliever and Captain Jack ( short term) and lets go.

[papalawrence]

They're gonna want Flaherty when Skubal walks

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, mtutiger said:

I know that Detroit isn't the primo location for most free agents for obvious reasons, but I don't buy that living in Detroit for four months out of the year is currently driving this negotiation. It's all about money and trying to maximize it.

In that sense, Bregman/Boras could also be leveraging the Tigers to up whatever they have on the table as well.

I myself don't buy the "one dollar more" argument, but agree to disagree.

I believe MLB insiders when they say players don't want to play in Detroit in part because Detroit, because the idea easily passes the smell test, and I think anyone can easily see that, even if they don't want to admit it. I don't like admitting that, either, but it is what is.

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

I myself don't buy the "one dollar more" argument, but agree to disagree.

I think it's true enough that for *some* players salary is just as competitive to them as the games are - so sure, they are out to get every dollar to prove how good they are, but I don't think every player is like that by any means. Some will give up dollars to play on a better team, some will give up dollars for term, some will give up dollars over family issues, and absolutely, there are some guys who do or don't want to play in particular places - but the bottom line is I don't think you can generalize about any of it.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I think it's true enough that for *some* players salary is just as competitive to them as the games are - so sure, they are out to get every dollar to prove how good they are, but I don't think every player is like that by any means. Some will give up dollars to play on a better team, some will give up dollars for term, some will give up dollars over family issues, and absolutely, there are some guys who do or don't want to play in particular places - but the bottom line is I don't think you can generalize about any of it.

I don't think you can generlaize about it.

[chasfh]

32 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

They're gonna want Flaherty when Skubal walks

Correct, assuming Flaherty has done a complete 180 from his past and becomes a consistent staff ace year after year into his 30s.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said:

Austin Hays..lefty basher..off the board for 5 million...Grisheck (sp?) still left and with Verling playing third he fits. F BreGGIe. Get Grisheck, reliever and Captain Jack ( short term) and lets go.

I don't want Grichuk.  He seems like the kind of guy that will drop off the cliff in Comerica given his age.  If they don't get Bregman, my next target would be Kim. 

I am all for additional pitching too. 

[Arlington]

41 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Correct, assuming Flaherty has done a complete 180 from his past and becomes a consistent staff ace year after year into his 30s.

If that's the case, they are going to want Flaherty if Skubal stays as well.

[RatkoVarda]

1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said:

Austin Hays..lefty basher..off the board for 5 million

ugh. he would have fit nicely, but more likely that he would have a big year in Cincy's tiny stadium.

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I myself don't buy the "one dollar more" argument, but agree to disagree.

I believe MLB insiders when they say players don't want to play in Detroit in part because Detroit, because the idea easily passes the smell test, and I think anyone can easily see that, even if they don't want to admit it. I don't like admitting that, either, but it is what is.

Ugh.  Get a new song, please.

[chasfh]

17 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Ugh.  Get a new song, please.

I know. Truth hurts.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Arlington said:

If that's the case, they are going to want Flaherty if Skubal stays as well.

I myself am not assuming that, but if it were to happen, than papalawrence would be right and I would be wrong, and seriously, I'd root for that, too.

[Hongbit]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I myself don't buy the "one dollar more" argument, but agree to disagree.

I believe MLB insiders when they say players don't want to play in Detroit in part because Detroit, because the idea easily passes the smell test, and I think anyone can easily see that, even if they don't want to admit it. I don't like admitting that, either, but it is what is.

It’s probably true but in reality is there really that much difference in Detroit and  Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, St. Louis, or KC?   They all feature smaller downtowns and many nicer suburbs.   

[Toddwert]

way would Bergman want to go back to Houston when they are clearly on the verge of rebuilt and Detroit is a team on the rise? where does he have a better change at a WS houston or Detroit?... maybe thats a big factor that we arent talking about

[gehringer_2]

52 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

It’s probably true but in reality is there really that much difference in Detroit and  Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, St. Louis, or KC?   They all feature smaller downtowns and many nicer suburbs.   

Back in the day when guys made a lot of money but not such stupid money, Det and maybe Cle had some advantage because of the greater water side recreational potential - if you think of a guy like Gibson - he really loved it here even after having been in LA. But for a higher level FA today, the money is going to be so stupid large that they can charter a lear jet anytime they feel like a fishing trip.

[papalawrence]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

Correct, assuming Flaherty has done a complete 180 from his past and becomes a consistent staff ace year after year into his 30s.

"And so it shall be!"

- Charlton Heston, Ten Commandments

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

It’s probably true but in reality is there really that much difference in Detroit and  Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, St. Louis, or KC?   They all feature smaller downtowns and many nicer suburbs.   

As far as top free agents are concerned, probably not much difference.

It's not that I believe Detroit will never get any top free agents ever again, but I do think it will take some years and an overhaul of the reputation of the Tigers organization to start seriously competing for them.

[monkeytargets39]

Most players would be willing to come to Detroit….for the right price.  Most of them aren’t worth that price though.

[chasfh]

56 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Most players would be willing to come to Detroit….for the right price.  Most of them aren’t worth that price though.

Agree. If a hypothetical player got offers of 5/120 from the Dodgers, 5/125 from the Yankees, and 9/250 from the Tigers, I'd bet they'd take the Tigers' offer (with early player opt-outs, of course). Sure, they could live in Detroit six months a year for that.

The old man is dead, though, and ain't no one getting that kind of offer from this team. Not this offseason, anyway.

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:07 PM by chasfh

[oblong]

4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't want Grichuk.  He seems like the kind of guy that will drop off the cliff in Comerica given his age.  If they don't get Bregman, my next target would be Kim. 

I am all for additional pitching too. 

Besides that is a hockey name. 

[Motor City Sonics]

8 hours ago, papalawrence said:

Is it a disco record?

those don't break, they explode

[Tenacious D]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Agree. If a hypothetical player got offers of 5/120 from the Dodgers, 5/125 from the Yankees, and 9/250 from the Tigers, I'd bet they'd take the Tigers' offer (with early player opt-outs, of course). Sure, they could live in Detroit six months a year for that.

The old man is dead, though, and ain't no one getting that kind of offer from this team. Not this offseason, anyway.

 

This really is nuts, and not grounded in any sort of reality (that can be proven).  There are the Los Angeles Dodgers and then there is everyone else, which lumps Detroit in, too.  No sure if you got your ass kicked in Detroit, or just had your lunch money stolen, but not everyone shares your dim view.