2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[Motor City Sonics]

5 minutes ago, roarintiger1 said:

Good old Rodney........He could be both good and bad in the same game.  Well, he could be both good and bad in the same inning. Heck, he could be both good and bad with the same batter....................

wears his hat crooked?

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

He was trying to show Jeremy Bonderman how to do it. 

All kidding aside, I can only imagine how good Bonderman would be with this current pitching coach.    He was a decent pitcher, he was so close to getting there, but Fetter would have probably helped him get there. 

[Tenacious D]

15 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

Nice bullpen pick-up. 

Now it's time to get Flaherty. Skubal is pushing for it. I'll throw in some baklava to get it done

Until Skubal is prepared to make a long term commitment himself, his opinion is irrelevant.

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Tommy Kahnle once threw 56 consecutive change-ups.  

I would contend they aren't change-ups then.

[Edman85]

Who's the 40 man move? I'm guessing Englert.

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

All kidding aside, I can only imagine how good Bonderman would be with this current pitching coach.    He was a decent pitcher, he was so close to getting there, but Fetter would have probably helped him get there. 

IIRC - (and I'm pretty sure this was Bonderman and not one of the other pitchers that had thoracic outlet surgery)  but was not very widely reported that there was some nerve damage done during the outlet surgery, so he had numbness in his fingers afterward, and that makes it very hard to command any 'feel' type pitches. Since damaged long nerves grow back very slowly, something like about 6" per year, the best case was it was going to be 2-3yrs before he would even know if he was going to get back full feeling in his fingers. 

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Until Skubal is prepared to make a long term commitment himself, his opinion is irrelevant.

this is true

[gehringer_2]

11 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

I would contend they aren't change-ups then.

LOL - I remember when Verlander has having his abdominal issues it was the early day of Brook's Baseball pitch tracking and his 'change-up' numbers would be way up during the game because the system didn't believe 90mph was JV's fastball - though it was! They'd often correct the reports a day or two later.

Edited Wednesday at 08:26 PM by gehringer_2

[RandyMarsh]

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

LOL - I remember when Verlander has having his abdominal issues it was the early day of Brook's Baseball pitch tracking and his 'change-up' numbers would be way up during the game because the system didn't believe 90mph was JV's fastball - though it was! They'd often correct the reports a day or two later.

Yep I remember that.

[oblong]

Regarding living here... I think the sport and the time the person played matters.  A lot of the Tigers from the 80's stayed here.  Rozema, Petry, Bergman, Wilcox, etc.  Why?  Because they found themselves in their late 30's, with not the kind of money to retire on.  But they had a bit of fame and connections so they got jobs.  Sales reps, etc.  When they played they didn't make the kind of money that permitted you to live anywhere in the country you wanted, even having two houses.  

It also matters when your off season is.  Hockey players often stuck around but  I bet many of them grew up in MN or Ontario so this is nothing new to them.  It's nice in MI during the off season for hockey.  

Basketball and baseball players, the merely "good" players, are now getting a level of contract that's far and away better than their peers in other sports.  

[Tiger337]

48 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

I would contend they aren't change-ups then.

True, if he throws the same pitch over and over, then nothing is changing.  I Don't even thnk Petriello was being serious when he tweeted that.  It was a reference to DiMaggio

Edited Wednesday at 09:04 PM by Tiger337

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

He sounds like another Fernando Rodney which could be good or bad.  The Tigers organization is good place for pitchers like that.  

High walk rate notwithstanding, he does controls the part of the strike zone that gets swing and miss, plus he limits hard contact. His xSlash last year was .173/.265. I think he's worth the ~$8MM gamble.

[Tiger337]

Just now, chasfh said:

High walk rate notwithstanding, he does controls the part of the strike zone that gets swing and miss, plus he limits hard contact. His xSlash last year was .173/.265. I think he's worth the ~$8MM gamble.

He's definitely worth a one year deal.  I pretty much never complain about one-year deals.  

[RandyMarsh]

I like the signing but wish we could have gotten Yates on a 1 year deal as well. Dodgers got him for 1/13, wonder how much we would have needed to offer to get him to come here instead? 

[Tigermojo]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

Who's the 40 man move? I'm guessing Englert.

Faedo.

I didn't realize he's 29 already. Faedo zero options, Englert still has two.

Edited Wednesday at 10:09 PM by Tigermojo

[Edman85]

9 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Faedo.

I didn't realize he's 29 already. Faedo zero options, Englert still has two.

If Faedo is still injured, he can't be outrighted until early March.

 

Edit: he wasnt on the December injury report, so this isn't an issue.

 

My other candidate was Kreidler.

Edited Wednesday at 10:14 PM by Edman85

[RandyMarsh]

Kreidler would be my choice. I just don't see any realistic scenario where he would provide any real help for the team, not to mention the fact I can't see him getting claimed.  

[RandyMarsh]

Well TIgers PR just put out that it is indeed Faedo. Wonder if he will get claimed?

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

If Faedo is still injured, he can't be outrighted until early March.

 

Edit: he wasnt on the December injury report, so this isn't an issue.

 

My other candidate was Kreidler.

yes - Faedo's MiLB page says he was dl'd in August and re-activated Nov4

[monkeytargets39]

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

What if Chris Illitch decided that he wanted his own stadium and decided to move the team to Nashville?  

He wouldn’t make it past Monroe alive

[gehringer_2]

I'd have preferred Kreidler as well, as I do think Faedo will get picked up. He was walking too many but the rest of his numbers weren't bad - so exactly the kind of guy you take a flyer on. But I get the logic, if Sweeney gets hurt and Baez doesn't make it back or remains ineffective, the cupboard is too bare to let Kreidler go, though I have a hard time seeing him get claimed as well.

Edited Wednesday at 10:31 PM by gehringer_2

[monkeytargets39]

I don’t understand the fascination with keeping Mason Englert around.  Faedo has some potential value as a spot starter/multiple inning reliever.

[RatkoVarda]

27 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

My other candidate was Kreidler.

Harris has not been able to find anyone better than Kreidler in 3 years? don't understand what they see in him.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

wears his hat crooked?

Wasn't that supposed to be a tribute to someone, but I don't remember who....Tiant maybe?

[Sports_Freak]

Jim Leyland predicted our hot September. Pretty good video;