2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[chasfh]

27 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I think the most likely scenario for Mize is if he can at least get good command of a slider and FB, he can be a serviceable reliever against RHH and in shorter outings maybe he keep his frustrations more in check. You know he wants to start and that means getting command of three pitches, something we have yet to see him succeed with.

Stop trying to make me hope! It won't work! 😂

We won without him. We can do it again. And if we don't win, then we can lose with him as well. That's the way it goes with replacement-level pitchers. They add nothing.

I will believe he will help when he actually comes in and helps.

[Tiger337]

36 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Not greedy ? Not sure illitch will spend more and don’t think they sign Jake ifBregman was probable ?

Greedy?  I am a fan.  I want the best team possible.  I am not going to be upset if they don't sign anyone else, but I'm rooting for it.  

I really have no idea what Illitch will allow.  I just think having an average to slightly average payroll is not a lot to ask for.  Other mid-market teams have done it.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Tiger337

[RedRamage]

35 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Or 2003 where they had to roll a 6 to win. 

2003 was more like needing to roll a 7 on a 6-sided die to win. By like mid-May I started every game with this thought: "Please just don't get no-hit." 

[RedRamage]

36 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Not greedy ? Not sure illitch will spend more and don’t think they sign Jake ifBregman was probable ?

Well, one could make the argument that they signed Flaherty because they thought they were close on Bregman. Like maybe it's a case of:

"If we don't get Bregman we're probably not going to be a 'real' contender, so no reason to spend a lot of Flaherty... better to save our money for next year when we can make a better push."

Or it could even be a case of:

"Bregman is worried that the Tigers aren't making a real commitment to winning so adding a top end arm like Flaherty will help us convince him that we're making a strong push."

Of course, I supposed its possible (however unlikely that it might be) that I'm simply grasping for whatever thin strands of hope that I can possibly find.

[Motor City Sonics]

Bregman's demands

Houston:  6 years/ 158

Boston: 6 years 156

Detroit:  7 years / 290 million / 15% ownership of team / Ownership of 1 parking lot downtown

[RatkoVarda]

Harris has made the 2025 squad a whole lot better without almost any risk.

and they will have the ability to add a bat during the season as well if one position is faltering.

and they may still need/want a big K reliever.

I still want Bregman, who easily fits in short-term and long-term payroll,

but I continue to doubt any position player is coming to Comerica to rebuild value on a short-term deal, so it would probably be a long-term deal

i've been wrong more than right this offseason

[Sports_Freak]

10 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Bregman's demands

Houston:  6 years/ 158

Boston: 6 years 156

Detroit:  7 years / 290 million / 15% ownership of team / Ownership of 1 parking lot downtown

Lol...cute. Put this on Twitter...it'll fit right in. 🤣🤣

[SeattleMike]

14 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

It was a great trade. 

It's one thing to trade away a player at the deadline for a top 100 prospect and guy who starts almost immediately for you at SS and then resign him in in the offseason. It's a whole another level of insanely good fortune to also make the playoffs in the same year. 

[SeattleMike]

4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Casey is frustrating because the big arm is there, but the pitching skills to get the most out of it have yet to come around. He'd be in a stronger position if his pitching had improved as last season progressed with distance from the injuries , but it didn't seem to, and he was another step worse when he came back after the hamstring, which I thought was just an add insult to injury king of thing. How do you pull a hamstring coming off the mound for a pop fly?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

Look around the league. Mize is a pretty good 5th starter. In more than 2/3 of his starts he allowed 3 runs or fewer. Handy guy to have around. 

Edited 5 hours ago by SeattleMike

[Motor City Sonics]

20 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

Look around the league. Mize is a pretty good 5th starter. In more than 2/3 of his starts he allowed 3 runs or fewer. Handy guy to have around. 

But the problem is they drafted him 1/1    You expect much more than "5th starter" out of that.   And you should.  I don't blame Avila. 

[monkeytargets39]

Faedo to the Rays for Enderson Delgado- 19 year old catcher.

 

Faedo will morph into a perennial all star now

[Nate7474]

9 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

But the problem is they drafted him 1/1    You expect much more than "5th starter" out of that.   And you should.  I don't blame Avila. 

Sure but we aren’t getting 1/1 value out of him and likely never will. That doesn’t mean we should get rid of a good cheaper 4/5 because he didn’t reach his ceiling. 

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Ownership of 1 parking lot downtown

That's a non-starter with Ilitch.

[SoCalTiger]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Greedy?  I am a fan.  I want the best team possible.  I am not going to be upset if they don't sign anyone else, but I'm rooting for it.  

I really have no idea what Illitch will allow.  I just think having an average to slightly average payroll is not a lot to ask for.  Other mid-market teams have done it.  

Well said as usual. Perhaps other than "greedy" I should have said "dreamy' as in not allowing myself to dream it happening and then be disappointed. But yes as a fan and the true custodians of the Detroit baseball Club Harris/Ilitch as current managers are indeed obliged to present us owners with a winning team. Unfortunately it doesn't happen as much as we deserve.

[gehringer_2]

26 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

But the problem is they drafted him 1/1    You expect much more than "5th starter" out of that.   And you should.  I don't blame Avila. 

I do somewhat. I know there was a lot of 'consensus' talk but GMs aren't paid to to put their finger in the wind. Too much of Mize's college success was based on his split thrown out of the zone, and it was always a possibility/likelihood, that MLB batters would have better discipline. Despite having good velo, he really didn't have a plus fastball and that's what I expect an MLB org should have been able to suss out. Now Otoh, if they were determined to take a pitcher anyway, it was still either Mize or Singer and Singer hasn't been great either, and to be perfectly honest, no-one from the top of that draft has done much. You have to go all the way down Hoerner at 24 for player that has gotten to 10 WAR in the 7 years since that draft.

[IdahoBert]

A catcher for Faedo. I guess you can never have too many catchers.

[monkeytargets39]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I do somewhat. I know there was a lot of 'consensus' talk but GMs aren't paid to to put their finger in the wind. Too much of Mize's college success was based on his split thrown out of the zone, and it was always a possibility/likelihood, that MLB batters would have better discipline. Despite having good velo, he really didn't have a plus fastball and that's what I expect an MLB org should have been able to suss out. Now Otoh, if they were determined to take a pitcher anyway, it was still either Mize or Singer and Singer hasn't been great either, and to be perfectly honest, no-one from the top of that draft has done much. You have to go all the way down Hoerner at 24 for player that has gotten to 10 WAR in the 7 years since that draft.

Mize was the consensus #1.  I don’t fault Avila for the pick….sometimes it just doesn’t play out like you thought it would.  If we didn’t take him, we’d have taken Bart.  Equally as disappointing

Edited 4 hours ago by monkeytargets39

[Motor City Sonics]

45 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

That's a non-starter with Ilitch.

Bregman knows this, it's why it's included because he doesn't want to come here. 

[Motor City Sonics]

34 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

A catcher for Faedo. I guess you can never have too many catchers.

Never trade with the Rays. 

Congratulations to Alex Faedo on his 2026 Cy Young season. 

As far as Enderson Delgado, he'll be a fine backup at Erie for his whole career. 

 

[monkeytargets39]

Less than 3 weeks until Spring Training games….which player is going to be the HMCBSOHLA winner?

(Honorary Miguel Cabrera Best Shape Of His Life Award)

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Bregman's demands

Houston:  6 years/ 158

Boston: 6 years 156

Detroit:  7 years / 290 million / 15% ownership of team / Ownership of 1 parking lot downtown

You forgot the unlimited supply of Crazy Bread.

[chasfh]

 

Congratulations to 2025 All-Star starter Alex Faedo.

[chasfh]

PECOTA hates the Tigers. 

 

[monkeytargets39]

63% for the Twins?  

[romad1]

26 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

You forgot the unlimited supply of Crazy Bread.

When you say unlimited...would I be able to build a bridge across the Atlantic Ocean with it?  And how would the vehicles drive on that with all the garlic butter?