2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[RandyMarsh]

13 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

So Flattery is now confirmed who is cut off the roster or is there a trade coming ?

Kriedler would be my choice. I just don't see any reason to keep him at this point as he doesn't really offer anything that I feel can be a help to the team. GUys like Ibanez atleast offer the skill to hit lefties if need be, Malloy showed some OBP and power potential, Mckinstry has defensive versatility etc.

Kriedler really doesn't offer anything that you couldn't immediately find off waivers or in the minors if need be.

[Tiger337]

29 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

So Flattery is now confirmed who is cut off the roster or is there a trade coming ?

Let's all call him Flattery from now on!

[Motor City Sonics]

31 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

So Flattery is now confirmed who is cut off the roster or is there a trade coming ?

That guy's gonna get us nowhere.  

 

I think it's gonna be Manning out.  

[romad1]

Englert is out

[RatkoVarda]

Kreidler has more lives than Don Kelly

[monkeytargets39]

Englert had his chances and never showed much of anything.  Maybe he will get better over time but thats not worth our organization needing to find out at this point.

[IdahoBert]

Englert

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Englert had his chances and never showed much of anything.  Maybe he will get better over time but thats not worth our organization needing to find out at this point.

Terrible baseball name.  Jim Adduci beat up Mason Englert and stole his lunch money in high school.   

[romad1]

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

Englert

this is very strong.  

[romad1]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

Terrible baseball name.  Jim Adduci beat up Mason Englert and stole his lunch money in high school.   

Watch out what you say about a guy named Mason

[RandyMarsh]

35 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Terrible baseball name.  Jim Adduci beat up Mason Englert and stole his lunch money in high school.   

Speaking of Deuce, a couple weeks ago he signed on to be the hitting coach for the Diamondbacks AAA team in Oregon. He's surely going to be out recruiting some big tough lumberjacks to be some muscle for his organization. Also gives him a chance to spread his operations to the Northwest. 

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Watch out what you say about a guy named Mason

Hop in. 

 

But sir, it's

*gun click*  I said, hop in

[Toddwert]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

I assumed he was talking either free agent or trade.

my point is these are the Sean casey/ Carlos santana types that you claim dont exist and were available this free agency

 

but instead they are gonna throw out a guy whose never played there so we can make space for Torres for one season

Edited yesterday at 09:30 PM by Toddwert

[chasfh]

10 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

my point is these are the Sean casey/ Carlos santana types that you claim dont exist and were available this free agency

 

but instead they are gonna throw out a guy whose never played there so we can make space for Torres for one season

If you think Patrick Wisdom and jake Bauers are anything like Carlos Santana, then you haven't watched much baseball lately. 😉

In all seriousness, there was already going to be a time soon that Colt Keith was going to have to be moved to first base. If that's the case, might as well start the future of him there now, versus cycling numerous sub-replacement players through the position for the next however many years.

[monkeytargets39]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Terrible baseball name.  Jim Adduci beat up Mason Englert and stole his lunch money in high school.   

Remember the one time the Sharks dared Deuce to jump his 10 speed over Stutton Creek, so he attached bottle rockets to his spokes to give him an extra boost and one bottle rocket flew off and went into Tammy Gundersons hair?  Deuce totally would’ve made that jump too if it wasn’t so windy that day.

Edited yesterday at 09:49 PM by monkeytargets39

[oblong]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Terrible baseball name.  Jim Adduci beat up Mason Englert and stole his lunch money in high school.   

Mason is a youth hockey name. 
 

[Edman85]

[gehringer_2]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

Yeah, I wish Colt had a good glove at second and Tork was jacking bombs and making plays on the regular at first again, but neither are the case, so what're you gonna do? If you're presented with a choice between an established big league hitter with a weak glove at second and a promising hitter with an unknown glove at first, versus the promising hitter with a weak glove at second and running back a guy washing out of the majors with both his bat and his glove at first, which one you gonna take? Neither is the bulletproof obvious choice, but speaking only for myself, I'd take option A over Option B.

OK, so what about Option C: Promising hitter with a weak glove at second and promising hitter with unknown glove at first? That's a bit closer in choice, but I think I would still take Option A over that, especially since every win really counts for us this year. That's just me, though. YMMV, as the kids of 2007 would say.

Or established hitter with poor glove at 1st and decent 2B who improved over the course of the season at 2B at least until he proves he's 'outgrown it'. The fly in the ointment in the Torres deal from the beginning is Gleyber's unwillingness to at last try 1B. That is the most rational course of action for the Tiger team, and the fact that they signed a guy unwilling to do the best thing for the team is the thing that makes me regret the signing.

Edited yesterday at 10:11 PM by gehringer_2

[Shinzaki]

5 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

Kriedler would be my choice. I just don't see any reason to keep him at this point as he doesn't really offer anything that I feel can be a help to the team. GUys like Ibanez atleast offer the skill to hit lefties if need be, Malloy showed some OBP and power potential, Mckinstry has defensive versatility etc.

Kriedler really doesn't offer anything that you couldn't immediately find off waivers or in the minors if need be.

Sweeney made Kriedler redundant 

[Dan Gilmore]

1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

Speaking of Deuce, a couple weeks ago he signed on to be the hitting coach for the Diamondbacks AAA team in Oregon. He's surely going to be out recruiting some big tough lumberjacks to be some muscle for his organization. Also gives him a chance to spread his operations to the Northwest. 

Thanks for the headsup, I’ll have my boys keep an eye out. 

[Shelton]

1 hour ago, Toddwert said:

my point is these are the Sean casey/ Carlos santana types that you claim dont exist and were available this free agency

 

but instead they are gonna throw out a guy whose never played there so we can make space for Torres for one season

Correct

[Shelton]

40 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Or established hitter with poor glove at 1st and decent 2B who improved over the course of the season at 2B at least until he proves he's 'outgrown it'. The fly in the ointment in the Torres deal from the beginning is Gleyber's unwillingness to at last try 1B. That is the most rational course of action for the Tiger team, and the fact that they signed a guy unwilling to do the best thing for the team is the thing that makes me regret the signing.

Who is the established hitter with the poor glove at 1B? 

[Shelton]

Personally, I’m not at all convinced that Colt was as good at 2B as som of the numbers seemed to suggest near the end of last season. 
 

I think 2B is a difficult position to evaluate, because it just isn’t that hard, especially with the way we are shifting these days. I didn’t find his throws when turning a DP to be that crisp. He seemed to miss more than his share of what I would consider easy grounders. 
 

I haven’t watched Torres much so maybe he is equally as unimpressive or even worse. But it’s just not that hard to stand on the grass and make a weak throw to first from shallow RF. 
 

Torres can hit though. And he can hit better than Tork. So Torres and Colt at 2b and 1b is a clear improvement over Keith and Tork at 2b and 1b IMO. I don’t think whatever defensive differences are present in the above comparison moves the needle. 

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, Shelton said:

Who is the established hitter with the poor glove at 1B? 

Torres is the established hitter with a glove that really doesn't play at middle IF. If Keith's natural progression will be to 1st base 'eventually'  say in his middle or late 20's, than Gleyber's progression would be to be moving to 1b now.

Edited 23 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Shelton]

It’s definitely possible that Scott Harris and AJ Hinch are idiots and didn’t think of any of this, and just made a huge mistake moving Colt Keith off of 2B. Yes, I’m appealing to authority. There is an information deficit that allows it.