2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[Tiger337]

18 minutes ago, chasfh said:

This is an online forum, for cry eye! 🤣

LOL, You're the one who's crying.  I want to see Bregman sign somewhere (preferablty the Tigers) as much as anyone, but it's really none of my business how he goes about signing a contract.  The only people who know about whether he'd be a good teammate are players and so far all quotes have been positive.  

 

Edited February 11 by Tiger337

[Motor City Sonics]

48 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

We'll never know what they offered him unless they sign him, but if the speculation that they have offered a 6-year contract for 25-30 million annually is true, I think that would be a very reasonable offer.  I would not expect them to go beyond that.  

6/162    (27 million per year).   Don't know how he's gonna get by on that.  Eggs are $8 a dozen.  

[chasfh]

11 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

LOL, You're the one who's crying.

Is this a middle school taunt? I have no idea how this relates to anything that went before it.

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

6/162    (27 million per year).   Don't know how he's gonna get by on that.  Eggs are $8 a dozen.  

I don't know.  How are the owners going to get by if they have to keep paying players millions?  

By the way, I got my my eggs for $3.49 per dozen this week (not a sale.  I's been that price for a while). We are limited to two cartons per customer,but that's good enough for me.  

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Is this a middle school taunt? I have no idea how this relates to anything that went before it.

I just looked back at what you said.  I misread it. I thought you said "There is a forum for cry eye" as if you were accusing me of crying.  My mistake.  

 

 

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I just looked back at what you said.  I misread it. I thought you said "There is a forum for cry eye" as if you were accusing me of crying.  My mistake.  

 

 

No prob. Middle school taunts are not my thing, either.

[Tigermojo]

Celly trains are not my thing.

[RedRamage]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

If this were a smart negotiation team they would keep it all hushed until the 60 day IL date comes up.   However, apparently this is causing him significant reputation damage with multiple fanbases.   He's not pulling a Lebron James here. 

I thought I saw something about Alonzo's deal not being official until a certain date... and I know I've seen other deal announced as "done" but couldn't have been fully completed until a corresponding roster move was done. So I don't think they would need to wait until the official 60-day-DL date to announce something.

[papalawrence]

I do think many more teams are avoiding longterm contracts and Boras hasn't seemed to adapt. Alonso is case in point. It will be interesting to see what happens with Skubal. If he stays healthy he'll get a huge deal, but I doubt many teams will be in on what Boras will ask. If Skubal continues to improve I could see the starting ask to be 9/400

[IdahoBert]

There is that old saying that you don’t want to know how either sausages or laws are made, and I guess you can add negotiations of free agents to that list. 

[IdahoBert]

Just wondering about Torkelson. I guess they keep stuff like this under wraps, but if the club was happy with his progress I think they might’ve said something about it, if only to enhance his trade value.

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Just wondering about Torkelson. I guess they keep stuff like this under wraps, but if the club was happy with his progress I think they might’ve said something about it, if only to enhance his trade value.

they seem to have factored him out - at this point if he turns it around it will count as upside surprise. Petzold wrote the other day he thought he would spend the season in Toledo possibly working his way back for '26 when Torres departs. I tend to think the more likely scenario is that if he's going to make the breakthrough it's going to come quickly and he is either going to force his way back this season or we won't see him in the English D again.

[Tigermojo]

If Tork does hit, he could DH with Carpenter in right. They have options. No need to trade him while his value is low.

[IdahoBert]

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

they seem to have factored him out - at this point if he turns it around it will count as upside surprise. Petzold wrote the other day he thought he would spend the season in Toledo possibly working his way back for '26 when Torres departs. I tend to think the more likely scenario is that if he's going to make the breakthrough it's going to come quickly and he is either going to force his way back this season or we won't see him in the English D again.

Thank you. I wish he was like Magglio and able to follow his advice to “let the ball come to you.“ I just get the feeling he psychs himself out. 

[1776]

6 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Thank you. I wish he was like Magglio and able to follow his advice to “let the ball come to you.“ I just get the feeling he psychs himself out. 

He was rushed up and has suffered ever since. Thanks Al.The dude is under a microscope 24/7. I don’t know that he’ll ever be his best version in Detroit. I think a change of scenery would probably benefit him. 

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, IdahoBert said:

Thank you. I wish he was like Magglio and able to follow his advice to “let the ball come to you.“ I just get the feeling he psychs himself out. 

Of course we don't really know what goes on in his head, and a player's mien at the plate is usually carefully cultivated, but all that said, to me it all comes down to aggressiveness early in the count. You can't let yourself get behind taking called strikes. I don't know in Tork's case if it's because he can't put the bat on those strikes, or because he's intent on hunting better pitches to drive. You hope it's the latter because that's something he can change of his own accord. If his problem is he can't hit anything that isn't down the middle, then he's got a the bigger problem. I looked at a lot of his AB's when he was at Toledo and I think you could make an argument that he was trying to swing at more strikes, and when he came back up he was pretty hot, though it tailed off again but the end of the season. He's got a nice swing and huge power and he can hit a breaking ball. There's a ton of potential there if he can/will just cover more of the zone. So we'll see.

[IdahoBert]

[Toddwert]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

6/162    (27 million per year).   Don't know how he's gonna get by on that.  Eggs are $8 a dozen.  

hows the Ilitch family gonna get by with 27 million a year less?... why do people always take the side of billionaires?

Edited February 11 by Toddwert

[Tiger337]

17 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Thank you. I wish he was like Magglio and able to follow his advice to “let the ball come to you.“ I just get the feeling he psychs himself out. 

Are you talking about Ordonez's offense or defense?  😀

[Sports_Freak]

 

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

 

so if the Tigers or some other team,  have the best short term deal on the table, that could work to their advantage if no-one is willing to give him 6 or 7. I figure if he has two 6 yr deals on the table but wants seven, it's easier on his pride to reject both and take the interim deal than take either of the offers he deems insufficient. Basically do what Correa did. The counter argument is that Correa was still young enough to get the long term deal after a successful 'prove it' season. Even if Bregman has a good '25, the added year will be one more strike against getting the long term deal in '26.

[Tenacious D]

11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

so if the Tigers or some other team,  have the best short term deal on the table, that could work to their advantage if no-one is willing to give him 6 or 7. I figure if he has two 6 yr deals on the table but wants seven, it's easier on his pride to reject both and take the interim deal than take either of the offers he deems insufficient. Basically do what Correa did. The counter argument is that Correa was still young enough to get the long term deal after a successful 'prove it' season. Even if Bregman has a good '25, the added year will be one more strike against getting the long term deal in '26.

I doubt he’s willing to bet on himself with a short term deal.  The ‘Stros, who know him best, pivoted from him early, and if he puts up another season (or two) like his last, he drops down to $10-15M per season.  Can’t blame him for holding out for a long term deal—could be his last

[gehringer_2]

30 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

I doubt he’s willing to bet on himself with a short term deal.  The ‘Stros, who know him best, pivoted from him early, and if he puts up another season (or two) like his last, he drops down to $10-15M per season.  Can’t blame him for holding out for a long term deal—could be his last

sure - that's the other side of the coin. If teams have done their due diligence studying his last few years in detail and they don't like the direction they see, then he may well be sitting on opening day. It would be fun to have a sit down with whoever the Tigers put on that job and find out what they really think. That's the crazy thing about hitting, you really can be lucky enough to skew a whole season without there being anything real there, and conversely you can get enough bad bounces in one summer to have a crappy season while being the same player. 

[Motor City Sonics]

3 hours ago, Toddwert said:

hows the Ilitch family gonna get by with 27 million a year less?... why do people always take the side of billionaires?

Because if they whiff on this guy they get squeamish about singing anyone else. 

[IdahoBert]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

…the crazy thing about hitting, you really can be lucky enough to skew a whole season without there being anything real there, and conversely you can get enough bad bounces in one summer to have a crappy season while being the same player. 

True, but he walked about half as much as usual this last season while his K total stayed consistent. I wonder if he was less discriminating so he was walked about 40 times less than normal or pitchers stayed in the zone often enough that he knew he had to swing and take his chances.