2024 - 2025 Detroit Tigers Offseason

[Tiger337]

57 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Because of Scott Harris' inaction, we have been painfully forced to rehash: ERod non-trade; non-serious offers to FA Correa; Astros cheating; Skubal trade; and Baez signing.

It may be harsh, but I would fire him for this.

At least he aggressively pursued Alex Cobb.  Now their pitching is all set.  

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I am assume you have never managed professional baseball players, so maybe your opinion is just as invalid as you say mine is.  

OK, have it your way. Everyone who has managed people for a living knows what I'm talking about.

[chasfh]

50 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

He traded away players last trade deadline and the Tigers went on a roll and made the playoffs. Sending a message to the players by making trades is over-rated, the message should be he's trying to win every game by trading a pitcher who only plays once every 5 days. This talk is pointless anyway, Skubal isn't going anywhere, at least until the trade deadline in '26.

It's one thing to trade players when a team have little to no chance of making the playoffs. It's a whole other thing to have a terrific chance of making the playoffs, then trade their best player because they're afraid they'll end up not having the team to make help them the playoffs in 2028 or '29. I'd be shocked if any GM did that, let alone Scott Harris.

In fact—is there any record of a team well into the playoff hunt trading their very best player at the deadline? Or even a team who was a playoff team, was expected to take a big step the following year, then traded their best player in the offseason to avoid having him walk for nothing in two years? If so, I'm curious how that worked out for them.

[Sports_Freak]

36 minutes ago, chasfh said:

It's one thing to trade players when a team have little to no chance of making the playoffs. It's a whole other thing to have a terrific chance of making the playoffs, then trade their best player because they're afraid they'll end up not having the team to make help them the playoffs in 2028 or '29. I'd be shocked if any GM did that, let alone Scott Harris.

In fact—is there any record of a team well into the playoff hunt trading their very best player at the deadline? Or even a team who was a playoff team, was expected to take a big step the following year, then traded their best player in the offseason to avoid having him walk for nothing in two years? If so, I'm curious how that worked out for them.

Meh...I don’t care. It really is a non-issue because the Tigers aren't trading Skubal. My main point is his value will never be higher than it is right now. Let him walk in 2 years and take a comp pick. Maybe we can turn it into a utility infielder...😆😅

[gehringer_2]

Afternoon radio guys say Flaherty back to the Tigers is in play. Here's hoping.

[Tiger337]

 

28 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Afternoon radio guys say Flaherty back to the Tigers is in play. Here's hoping.

Wondering if "afternoon radio guy" is a good source.  😐

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

OK, have it your way. Everyone who has managed people for a living knows what I'm talking about.

🤐

[chasfh]

43 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

 

Wondering if "afternoon radio guy" is a good source.  😐

Well, there is this, too, although it is from five days ago. Maybe this is where "afternoon radio guy" got it.

 

[papalawrence]

The Tigers have been linked to him for a while now. But are the links speculation or is there some substance? I'd trust evening radio guy.....afternoon? Not so sure

[RatkoVarda]

Bellinger to NYY in salary dump; Cubs get a warm body

[monkeytargets39]

Seems like nobody actually wants Bregman but some team will settle.

[monkeytargets39]

Surprisingly, Baddoo cleared waivers.

[Tigermojo]

Bregman "My OBP fell off a cliff. Give me $200 million."

[1776]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Afternoon radio guys say Flaherty back to the Tigers is in play. Here's hoping.

This would be interesting. He just turned 29 two months ago. He’d have to be asking more years this time around and more money per. I’m a fan of the guy but could the two parties find a contract suitable for each side? 

[Edman85]

12 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Surprisingly, Baddoo cleared waivers.

Why is this a surprise?

[monkeytargets39]

16 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Why is this a surprise?

He does a couple of things well enough to have some value—namely baserunning.  He’s also had some decent numbers at AAA the last few seasons and is only 26 and bats left handed.  

Put him in a park with a short RF to platoon or on a winning team to pinch run for a slow 1B/C/DH late in games.  I can see certain teams being able to see value in him for a very cheap price.   Even if he’s just picked up and stashed in AAA, he’s not a bad emergency depth piece to have.

[Motor City Sonics]

I'd be okay with Verlander as long as he was willing to take a deal that was fairly low with tons of incentives

[ewsieg]

3 hours ago, papalawrence said:

The Tigers have been linked to him for a while now. But are the links speculation or is there some substance? I'd trust evening radio guy.....afternoon? Not so sure

I don't see it happening, but I went looking for links as I haven't heard anything about Flaherty to Detroit being talked about.

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/detroit-tigers-jack-flaherty-reunion-predicted-to-happen-in-free-agency

It's the only one I can find, but the numbers aren't horrible, especially considering what we're seeing now a days.  That said, I have no faith Illitch will open his wallet for even this modest contract of 5/115.  

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

He does a couple of things well enough to have some value—namely baserunning.  He’s also had some decent numbers at AAA the last few seasons and is only 26 and bats left handed.  

Put him in a park with a short RF to platoon or on a winning team to pinch run for a slow 1B/C/DH late in games.  I can see certain teams being able to see value in him for a very cheap price.   Even if he’s just picked up and stashed in AAA, he’s not a bad emergency depth piece to have.

But if a team would have claimed him, they would have had to take on his current contract, I think?

[monkeytargets39]

22 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

But if a team would have claimed him, they would have had to take on his current contract, I think?

Well…

500 Akil Baddoos = 1 Juan Soto

[papalawrence]

1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Well…

500 Akil Baddoos = 1 Juan Soto

Last season Badoo had a -0.5 WAR. 500 of him is a whole lotta bad

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

But if a team would have claimed him, they would have had to take on his current contract, I think?

I believe this is correct. Conversely, if a player clears waivers and ends up on another team, then that team only owes him the minimum and his old team is on the hook for any balance on his contract beyond that.

[Sports_Freak]

5 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

I believe this is correct. Conversely, if a player clears waivers and ends up on another team, then that team only owes him the minimum and his old team is on the hook for any balance on his contract beyond that.

I wonder if Baddoo was signed though? Last I heard, he signed last season for over a million $$. Kind of expensive for depth stashed away in Toledo.

[roarintiger1]

13 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Surprisingly, Baddoo cleared waivers.

You are surprised that nobody wants a career .226 hitter with a most recent batting average of .137?   The Tigers certainly have better options.  Looks like other teams do as well.   

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, ewsieg said:

I don't see it happening, but I went looking for links as I haven't heard anything about Flaherty to Detroit being talked about.

https://www.si.com/mlb/tigers/news/detroit-tigers-jack-flaherty-reunion-predicted-to-happen-in-free-agency

It's the only one I can find, but the numbers aren't horrible, especially considering what we're seeing now a days.  That said, I have no faith Illitch will open his wallet for even this modest contract of 5/115.  

It might be less a matter of whether the owner will open up the wallet and cheap out, as it is a matter of we are not yet in a position to commit five-plus years to fringey-All-Star-level players.

That said, if they had to give five years to anyone, Flaherty is probably the best bet of anyone not named Burnes. Even with his years wandering in the desert, he has an early track record of great success, and he did really well under this coaching regime. If the price for Flaherty is five years, I’m guessing this is going to be one of the tougher decision Harris and Ilitch are going to have to make.