Random Baseball Posts

[casimir]

18 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

I’m thinking the inclusion of something reminiscent of “Death Race 2000“ should be included during the seventh inning stretch just for entertainment purposes. 

Or how about the Golden Batter has to take the at bat in the team’s mascot costume?

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, casimir said:

Or how about the Golden Batter has to take the at bat in the team’s mascot costume?

Now we're getting somewhere.

[Tiger337]

On 12/4/2024 at 12:10 PM, papalawrence said:

Admiring Musial's 1948 season. Lead the league in most everything, except came up 1 home run short of Mize and Kiner. Hits, runs, rbi, avg, obp, ops, ops+, 2b, 3b, tb, slg. He just hit. I have his 1953 Bowman color card and it's one of my favorites. I am a stat nerd.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/musiast01.shtml

14 black ink numbers!

Ducky Medwick had 15 in 1937

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/medwijo01.shtml

[papalawrence]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

14 black ink numbers!

Ducky Medwick had 15 in 1937

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/medwijo01.shtml

Medwick beat the Tigers in '34. He sucks

[casimir]

On 12/5/2024 at 11:01 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Now we're getting somewhere.

I have many ideas.  Most of them are probably garbage.  But I have ideas.

[Tiger337]

**** Allen and Dave Parker have been elected into the Hall of Fame.  Allen was one of the greatest hitters in MLB history finishing with a 156 OPS+ lifetime.  That is 18th best ever.  He deserves it.

Parker was a Hall of Fame talent for a few years before he blew out his knee, but he didn't have enough years and I think he was a weak pick. He is kind of in the Jim Rice class as far as peak versus career.  He was a better player than Rice, but just not enough years.    

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

**** Allen and Dave Parker have been elected into the Hall of Fame.  Allen was one of the greatest hitters in MLB history finishing with a 156 OPS+ lifetime.  That is 18th best ever.  He deserves it.

Parker was a Hall of Fame talent for a few years before he blew out his knee, but he didn't have enough years and I think he was a weak pick. He is kind of in the Jim Rice class as far as peak versus career.  He was a better player than Rice, but just not enough years.    

I'm OK with both.  Sure, Parker was mostly a beast early on, but I'll give him some credit for leading the league in total bases at 34 and 35, so his 30's weren't as complete a flameout as some.

Edited December 9, 2024 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'm OK with both.  Sure, Parker was mostly a beast early on, but I'll give him some credit for leading the league in total bases at 34 and 35, so his 30's weren't as complete a flameout as some.

I don't think he measures up to most Hall of Famers.  I would have liked to have seen Tommy John and Luis Tiant make it.  

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't think he measures up to most Hall of Famers.  I would have liked to have seen Tommy John and Luis Tiant make it.  

Tiant just because he was such a presence/personality in the game. I don't mind giving guys credit when they end up being a big part of what makes the game what it is. Sure, it's not quantitative, but you know it when you see it....😉

[Tiger337]

9 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Tiant just because he was such a presence/personality in the game. I don't mind giving guys credit when they end up being a big part of what makes the game what it is. Sure, it's not quantitative, but you know it when you see it....😉

And Tommy John had a famous surgery named after him.  He had the surgery in '75 and was still pitching in '89!  26 years total.  

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

And Tommy John had a famous surgery named after him.  He had the surgery in '75 and was still pitching in '89!  26 years total.  

LOL - I have no idea why at this point - it's lost in the past, but I have a residual memory of intensely disliking John for some reason (probably just because he played for the Yankees for a while!) - so assuming whatever I can't remember was actually a good reason, he can go pound sand.   🤷‍♂️

[papalawrence]

Imho Allen = hall of fame

Parker = hall of very good

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

**** Allen and Dave Parker have been elected into the Hall of Fame.  Allen was one of the greatest hitters in MLB history finishing with a 156 OPS+ lifetime.  That is 18th best ever.  He deserves it.

Parker was a Hall of Fame talent for a few years before he blew out his knee, but he didn't have enough years and I think he was a weak pick. He is kind of in the Jim Rice class as far as peak versus career.  He was a better player than Rice, but just not enough years.    

Dave Parker is a terrible pick for the Hall. He’s Harold Baines with a far better peak and a far worse decline. What, they couldn’t find a way to get Steve Garvey in this time?

I’m absolutely gobsmacked that Luis Tiant did not get voted in. Then again, these are players voting on different, probably personal, criteria than BBWAA voters do, so, it’s not hard to understand why they elect guys with worse careers than others they bypassed.

 

[gehringer_2]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

And Tommy John had a famous surgery named after him.  He had the surgery in '75 and was still pitching in '89!  26 years total.  

Going to the other extreme, do you think Koufax would be elected if he had finished the same career in 2019? I have to doubt it given how short his career was and what we know about Dodger Stadium park factors. I think there would at least be a lot of grumbling.

Edited December 9, 2024 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

22 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Going to the other extreme, do you think Koufax would be elected if he had finished the same career in 2019? I have to doubt it given how short his career was and what we know about Dodger Stadium park factors. I think there would at least be a lot of grumbling.

Absolutely, He won three Cy Young awards, finished 3rd another year and ended his career with one of the best 4 year stretches of any pitcher ever. He was Degrom on steroids.  

I think you can ignore park factors when someone leads the league in strikeouts every year.  

[papalawrence]

Random item - I recently picked up a 1935 goudey 4-in-1 with Gehringer, Cochrane, Rogell and Bridges, psa 3. I'm getting old but still enjoy collecting vintage Tigers

[casimir]

21 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

And Tommy John had a famous surgery named after him.  He had the surgery in '75 and was still pitching in '89!  26 years total.  

Yeah, I had forgotten how pitched well in his 40s.

[1776]

"The home run became glorified with Babe Ruth. Starting with him, batters have been thinking in terms of how far they could hit the ball, not how often."
 

-Rogers Hornby 

[chasfh]

I don’t think this is an exact proxy for fandom by state, but it is close-ish.

 

I would expect the Yankees in, I guess, in an “unclaimed” state like Wyoming and even Nebraska, only Omaha of which is tied in anyway to the Royals. And you would expect them in Florida, because Florida.

But how about the Yankees in TN, NC, and SC, states that are contiguous to Georgia, home of the unoffical capital of the region? And I might have thought the New Mexico might have been solidly Diamondbacks, but then, it’s probably one of the lesser baseball states in general. Amd Astros in Alaska? Wouldna thought that.

[CMRivdogs]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I don’t think this is an exact proxy for fandom by state, but it is close-ish.

 

 

But how about the Yankees in TN, NC, and SC, states that are contiguous to Georgia, home of the unoffical capital of the region? And I might have thought the New Mexico might have been solidly Diamondbacks, but then, it’s probably one of the lesser baseball states in general. Amd Astros in Alaska? Wouldna thought that.

Yankee fans in TN, NC and SC are called "Half Backs". folks that move from NY to Fla, then moved halfway back.

[papalawrence]

Yankees suck

[RandyMarsh]

On 12/9/2024 at 11:05 AM, Tiger337 said:

Absolutely, He won three Cy Young awards, finished 3rd another year and ended his career with one of the best 4 year stretches of any pitcher ever. He was Degrom on steroids.  

I think you can ignore park factors when someone leads the league in strikeouts every year.  

Not saying this player is Koufax but I will never get the lack of love Johan Santana got, dropped off the ballot his first try despite being the best pitcher in baseball for like 6 or 7 years. 

Had a 5 yr stretch where he led pitchers in WAR 3 times, won 2 Cys(2 3rds and a 5th place finish) and averaged nearly 7 WAR a season. 

Yes his career was relatively short but boy his prime was among the best in recent history for pitchers. 

Edited December 13, 2024 by RandyMarsh

[oblong]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don’t think this is an exact proxy for fandom by state, but it is close-ish.

 

I would expect the Yankees in, I guess, in an “unclaimed” state like Wyoming and even Nebraska, only Omaha of which is tied in anyway to the Royals. And you would expect them in Florida, because Florida.

But how about the Yankees in TN, NC, and SC, states that are contiguous to Georgia, home of the unoffical capital of the region? And I might have thought the New Mexico might have been solidly Diamondbacks, but then, it’s probably one of the lesser baseball states in general. Amd Astros in Alaska? Wouldna thought that.

Astros in Alaska? Oil workers from TX I bet.

North and South Carolina going for NYY?   Considering the big college B-Ball teams in that area I can see the fans being loyal to front runners and bandwagoners and the Yanks have been great for a long time so why not....

 

I want to know about the Cardinals for Montana.

 

[chasfh]

10 hours ago, oblong said:

Astros in Alaska? Oil workers from TX I bet.

North and South Carolina going for NYY?   Considering the big college B-Ball teams in that area I can see the fans being loyal to front runners and bandwagoners and the Yanks have been great for a long time so why not....

 

I want to know about the Cardinals for Montana.

 

Proto-red hats escaping the liberal hellhole that is Missouri? 😉😁

[Arlington]

Awhile back I say a similar breakdown of the top three teams in each state and the Yankees were in practically, if not every state, top 3, most often second if not first. 

Montana going Cardinal red is the most surprising to me, but then maybe it's the kids from two large displaced families going to the site over and over again.