24-25 Prospects Thread

[lordstanley]

This X thread was initiated about Habs prospect Jacob Fowler but is relevant to Augustine as well. Fowler was drafted in the 3rd round in 2023, about 20 spots after the Wings drafted Augustine. 
 

 

[buddha]

what's the list of goaltenders who played 3 seasons in ncaa before turning pro who werent good?

i bet its longer than the list above.

disappointing from augustine.  he has nothing left to prove in the ncaa and is likely holding back his development.

otoh, he was drafted by detroit and would have likely spent the next decade in the minors anyway because we cant have young players come up before they are absolutely, 100% overripe as prospects.

[slothfacekilla]

16 hours ago, lordstanley said:

This X thread was initiated about Habs prospect Jacob Fowler but is relevant to Augustine as well. Fowler was drafted in the 3rd round in 2023, about 20 spots after the Wings drafted Augustine. 
 

 

Add in Jimmy Howard, Cam Talbot and Ben Bishop.  It isn't exact but Connor Hellbuyck spent his third year after his draft in the NCAA as well (D+1 was in the NAHL before going to college).

Next season the OHL kids will be flooding the NCAA, raising the overall talent level as well.  I really don't think it is a big deal but people like to be mad about stuff.

[Dan Gilmore]

5 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

… but people like to be mad about stuff.

 

[Shinzaki]

Is NIL money playing a part in his decision?  If he's getting paid already, he might view another year at MSU as being preferable to shuttling between Toledo and Grand Rapids on an entry level deal.

 

[slothfacekilla]

10 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said:

 

Now I'm mad!

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, Shinzaki said:

Is NIL money playing a part in his decision?  If he's getting paid already, he might view another year at MSU as being preferable to shuttling between Toledo and Grand Rapids on an entry level deal.

 

MSU sells out their hockey games, sold 111K tickets this season, so they can probably afford to pay a star player at least as much as some AHL guys make. But I don't know anything about what Augustine's existing deal with the Wings might be.

[slothfacekilla]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

MSU sells out their hockey games, sold 111K tickets this season, so they can probably afford to pay a star player at least as much as some AHL guys make. But I don't know anything about what Augustine's existing deal with the Wings might be.

I'm being pedantic but he doesn't have a deal with the Wings because he has to stay an amateur to play in the NCAA.  They just own his rights through his senior season.  I think the most he can make on his entry level contract is $950k a year plus bonuses that are capped at something like....15% of the annual salary?  Something like that.

[gehringer_2]

11 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

I'm being pedantic but he doesn't have a deal with the Wings because he has to stay an amateur to play in the NCAA.  They just own his rights through his senior season.  I think the most he can make on his entry level contract is $950k a year plus bonuses that are capped at something like....15% of the annual salary?  Something like that.

right!  I'd bet MSU can't pay him $950K  - but doesn't he only sniff that $950K if he makes it to Detroit?

Edited 18 hours ago by gehringer_2

[slothfacekilla]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

right!  I'd bet MSU can't pay him $950K  - but doesn't he only sniff that $950K if he makes it to Detroit?

Correct, since it is a two way contract the player earns less if he is not in the NHL.  I'm actually not sure if that is standardized too or if it can be negotiated.  It would be interesting to see a NIL vs ELC breakdown honestly.