Mr.TaterSalad Posted March 18 Posted March 18 21 minutes ago, KL2 said: ummm what cap space savings? LaPorta is on a rookie deal and has a $2.5 million hit this year, and $3million next year. Pick 29's cap hit is larger than that. It would actually costs us more to have Loveland I think he's saying to draft Loveland and let LaPorta walk after 2026 so you don't have to pay him. Quote
KL2 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I think he's saying to draft Loveland and let LaPorta walk after 2026 so you don't have to pay him. Ok. It is still a completly ridiculous proposal then. Lets use a first round pick to save $5 million in four years Edited March 18 by KL2 Quote
Jimbo Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) On 3/18/2025 at 12:46 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said: I think he's saying to draft Loveland and let LaPorta walk after 2026 so you don't have to pay him. The only way we do this is if the Lions get a first round pick for Laporta and then they draft one of the tight ends. Still don't think that's a good decision. Could be said about Gibbs and one of the early RBs as well. Both RBs and TE's have some serious top level talent. I don't want them to trade either. These next two years should be going all in for the championship and trading top 5 player in each position with the hope of replacing them with the same production is slim. When they traded Hockenson it made sense because we were rebuilding. Edited March 19 by Jimbo Quote
buddha Posted March 20 Posted March 20 the lions got a second and a third for hockenson and 2 fourths. theyre not getting a first for laporta. or a second. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 On 3/18/2025 at 1:32 PM, KL2 said: Ok. It is still a completly ridiculous proposal then. Lets use a first round pick to save $5 million in four years Sorry. I was thinking beyond next year. I think we are going to have some serious cap space problems with the next round of contracts. If we drafted Loveland this year and trade LaPorta (assuming we could get a 1st but more probable a 2nd), I think we'd come out ahead. LaPorta after next year will command 20million+, per year. If we can get five years of 2-3 million for Loveland, THATS where the savings I was proposing. That'd allow us (or help) to sign Gibbs, JaMo, Arnold, Joseph to long term deals. And having Loveland instead of LaPorta I don't think would be a huge drop off. But we have like 7-8 guys in the next two years we're gonna have to give extensions to. I don't see us having the cap space to do that. We're gonna lose some good guys soon when all these rookie deals finish..... Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 20 Posted March 20 The Lions cap situation is really good because they don't overpay for free agents. With these draft classes, they are able to stagger contracts. Goff's deal is already down to like 7th, St Brown has fallen out of the top 5, and Wirfs has already passed Sewell. The cap will continue to go up. The only issue with Laporta is that the Lions drafted so well that year that have about four players you will want to sign from that draft class. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The Lions cap situation is really good because they don't overpay for free agents. With these draft classes, they are able to stagger contracts. Goff's deal is already down to like 7th, St Brown has fallen out of the top 5, and Wirfs has already passed Sewell. The cap will continue to go up. The only issue with Laporta is that the Lions drafted so well that year that have about four players you will want to sign from that draft class. Exactly. That's why I think trading out LaPorta for Loveland will allow us some much needed flexibility after next year....... Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Just now, AlaskanTigersFan said: Exactly. That's why I think trading out LaPorta for Loveland will allow us some much needed flexibility after next year....... Laporta is under control for two more years. You would only be gaining two more years of cap savings. With Laporta's draft class, you have an extra year before you would have to extend Gibbs and Campbell. As long as the Lions don't get caught up in signing overpriced free agents, they will be fine. By the time a new contract kicks in for Laporta, St Brown will be in the last year of his. You can always do a re-structure or re-sign him to a new deal that saves cap space. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Another good thing is, the Lions didn't put a ton of void years at the end of Goff's contract like the Eagles did with Hurts. You will have options with his contract to create cap space. Quote
Jimbo Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Exactly. That's why I think trading out LaPorta for Loveland will allow us some much needed flexibility after next year....... These kind of decisions should take place after these next couple of years. Right now we are set up for a serious run in the next two years and also for the future (with possibly a year or two of retooling). So I am really not wanting to trade a top 5 player at any position (this year or the next) to help us out with the cap down the road. I am OK with us not going all in this year (trade away our future for one big run) but I also don't want us to keep on saying next year is the year. Trading LaPorta for draft picks and then taking Loveland (hoping he is as good as Laporta) with either our first or the one traded for Laporta doesn't make our team better this year. Last year we were officially in win now mode and that should be our situation for the next two years and possibly more. I really do believe if we didn't get hit so hard with the injuries last year we were right there with Philly. Edited March 20 by Jimbo Quote
Cruzer1 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 There's no way I'm trading LaPorta, I'd much rather extend him. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2025/3/21/24390863/lions-mailbag-will-detroit-eventually-have-to-trade-away-talent - so which poster on this forum is listening to me????????? =D Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/lions-trade-down-in-latest-2025-mock-draft - Lions Trade down in this mock draft. I'm ALL For it. I wish Holmes would trade down (maybe twice) to get three or four second rounders. We don't need studs, we need depth. His drafting past show's he's likely to get a stud anyways... might as well up the chances...... Quote
Sports_Freak Posted March 25 Posted March 25 29 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/lions-trade-down-in-latest-2025-mock-draft - Lions Trade down in this mock draft. I'm ALL For it. I wish Holmes would trade down (maybe twice) to get three or four second rounders. We don't need studs, we need depth. His drafting past show's he's likely to get a stud anyways... might as well up the chances...... That sounds good to me. But I expect Brad to do the unexpected. Move UP, into a top 10 pick? Get that stud edge rusher. We'll see... Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: That sounds good to me. But I expect Brad to do the unexpected. Move UP, into a top 10 pick? Get that stud edge rusher. We'll see... If you had to choose, would you pick one STUD, like absolute MONSTER (Think Maxx Crosby type). Or would you rather have 2-3 Really good starters/depth pieces right now with our current state of our team? I'm leaning towards the latter but am curious what you (and others) think? Quote
Hongbit Posted March 25 Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: That sounds good to me. But I expect Brad to do the unexpected. Move UP, into a top 10 pick? Get that stud edge rusher. We'll see... I believe there’s a strong possibility of that happening. Mykel Williams seems like he could be that guy. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 25 Posted March 25 The Lions roster is at a point where they don't need more picks, so a trade up makes sense. 1 Quote
Stanley70 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 I want a stud pass rusher but trading down makes sense. The number of players who are on the last year of their contract is always an issue. And with so many large contrats on the horizon they will need in house replacements to keep this team rolling. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: If you had to choose, would you pick one STUD, like absolute MONSTER (Think Maxx Crosby type). Or would you rather have 2-3 Really good starters/depth pieces right now with our current state of our team? I'm leaning towards the latter but am curious what you (and others) think? Well, considering how close the Lions are to a deep playoff run and their current depth, I would rather have a stud Edge pass rusher. Go ahead and double team Hutch and let a rookie eat. But whatever Brad decides is fine, he's built this team. And don't forget, there are several other, lower, draft picks to build depth. What would it take to move up to a top 10 pick? I say go for it. This team is close, real close, to a championship level. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted March 25 Posted March 25 And I should add...I'm not going to question Brad at all. Stay put at 28? OK...move down to get a couple extra picks? Sounds good. Trade a couple/few picks to move up? Great...who we gettin'? 😆 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Hongbit said: I believe there’s a strong possibility of that happening. Mykel Williams seems like he could be that guy. Good character from what I have read, plays all three downs, and plays hard against the run. Seems like a Brad and Dan type of guy. They seem to prefer 3 down Edge and DE guys like a Williams to a guy who is just a pure pass rusher. So I could see Williams being a guy that they would trade up for. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted March 25 Posted March 25 What are the chances you think that the Lions go offensive line in the first round at this point? Would you be disappointed if they took the BPA Center/Guard combo or Tackle if he fit their need? Quote
RandyMarsh Posted March 25 Posted March 25 My position of choice at this point is O-line or DT so I'd be fine with that. Quote
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