sagnam Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: The flipside is Brad is accumulating late picks. We now have two 6ths this year and three 7ths... What is Holmes planning to DO with all those picks? Inquiring minds want to know... (he has something up his sleeve?) Pick players to fill out the roster for training camp. Quote
buddha Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago i actuay like the player, but i hate that trade. the last times he got crazy wtih trade ups for guys no one ever heard of we got manu and broderick martin. too early to tell on manu but martin has been a real disappointment. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, Klondike said: Green better not turn out to be great I don't think the Lions would draft him. He's got major issues. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, Cruzer1 said: 3 3rds. He's athletically not a guy who should go later than the first. But how many freak athletes never pan out or become mid players at best. I trust Brad but this is a lot of freaking trade value he's giving up for athletic value with average college production. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago The Lions have a full roster, they're going to have problems cutting some talent. I think that's why they are taking later picks. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: The production is why he isn't top 30. I trust the coaching staff. If they think this guy is legit, I'd say 3 thirds is decent. Plus we got two 6ths which is basically a 5th. So if you look at it as two 3rds for a 3rd and a 5th, it isn't that bad...... (found the site: https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-trade-tracker-full-details-on-every-draft-related-move-since-start-of-new-league-year ) Quote
buddha Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The production is why he isn't top 30. other teams are moving up for much less than that. brad holmes has a rep now. you can fleece him on a trade. 1 Quote
Cruzer1 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: But how many freak athletes never pan out or become mid players at best. I trust Brad but this is a lot of freaking trade value he's giving up for athletic value with average college production. I don't blame him, they had a mediocre offense in the sec. Quote
buddha Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, AlaskanTigersFan said: I trust the coaching staff. If they think this guy is legit, I'd say 3 thirds is decent. Plus we got two 6ths which is basically a 5th. So if you look at it as two 3rds for a 3rd and a 5th, it isn't that bad...... (found the site: https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-trade-tracker-full-details-on-every-draft-related-move-since-start-of-new-league-year ) https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2025/4/25/24417199/detroit-lions-lose-moderate-value-2nd-round-trade-up-for-tate-ratledge by every chart they got fleeced to move up in round 2. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, buddha said: i actuay like the player, but i hate that trade. the last times he got crazy wtih trade ups for guys no one ever heard of we got manu and broderick martin. too early to tell on manu but martin has been a real disappointment. His college stats for a #1 WR at an SEC school don't blow you away though. Only 500 yards and 3 TDs. Maybe Arkansas had horrific QB play, a bad OL, bad offensive coaching, or all three? But his production is meh. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said: His college stats for a #1 WR at an SEC school don't blow you away though. Only 500 yards and 3 TDs. Maybe Arkansas had horrific QB play, a bad OL, bad offensive coaching, or all three? But his production is meh. We don't need him to be all pro. We got Jamo and ASB. We need him to be a solid #3. Looks like he can do that. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, buddha said: other teams are moving up for much less than that. brad holmes has a rep now. you can fleece him on a trade. In the beginning he was a good trader. He got the better of the Stafford trade, fleeced the Vikings in the Williams trade, got worked over the Packers in the Branch trade, and thought he did all right in the Gibbs trade back. These last trades leave a lot to be desired. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I trust Brad. Every year he gets questioned. Every year he seems to do it right. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago TeSlaa is a really intriguing prospect. Athletic freak with the perfect body type to be a Mike Evans type X Receiver, but Arkansas underutilized him, and played him as a slot receiver. Why? It's not as if he did poorly in his opportunities either. He has zero career drops. I do think that between the trade and taking him at #70, they likely expect production this year. Not necessarily, but he might challenge Tim Patrick for WR3 out of camp. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said: TeSlaa is a really intriguing prospect. Athletic freak with the perfect body type to be a Mike Evans type X Receiver, but Arkansas underutilized him, and played him as a slot receiver. Why? It's not as if he did poorly in his opportunities either. He has zero career drops. I do think that between the trade and taking him at #70, they likely expect production this year. Not necessarily, but he might challenge Tim Patrick for WR3 out of camp. Thats all we need him to do. I'm liking the pick more by the second..... Quote
RandyMarsh Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: We don't need him to be all pro. We got Jamo and ASB. We need him to be a solid #3. Looks like he can do that. You don't essentially use 3 third round picks for a solid number 3, atleast imo. I think for that kinda capital you need to get a true game changing type wide receiver. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said: TeSlaa is a really intriguing prospect. Athletic freak with the perfect body type to be a Mike Evans type X Receiver, but Arkansas underutilized him, and played him as a slot receiver. Why? It's not as if he did poorly in his opportunities either. He has zero career drops. I do think that between the trade and taking him at #70, they likely expect production this year. Not necessarily, but he might challenge Tim Patrick for WR3 out of camp. I was wondering as well why they used him in the slot. Everything screams X receiver. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said: TeSlaa is a really intriguing prospect. Athletic freak with the perfect body type to be a Mike Evans type X Receiver, but Arkansas underutilized him, and played him as a slot receiver. Why? It's not as if he did poorly in his opportunities either. He has zero career drops. I do think that between the trade and taking him at #70, they likely expect production this year. Not necessarily, but he might challenge Tim Patrick for WR3 out of camp. And forget about a Jamo extension? Quote
buddha Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: TeSlaa is a really intriguing prospect. Athletic freak with the perfect body type to be a Mike Evans type X Receiver, but Arkansas underutilized him, and played him as a slot receiver. Why? It's not as if he did poorly in his opportunities either. He has zero career drops. I do think that between the trade and taking him at #70, they likely expect production this year. Not necessarily, but he might challenge Tim Patrick for WR3 out of camp. very raw. i bet he's wr #5-6/inactive most of the season barring an injury. Quote
buddha Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Sports_Freak said: And forget about a Jamo extension? jamo was never getting an extension. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, buddha said: very raw. i bet he's wr #5-6/inactive most of the season barring an injury. So we traded 3 3rd round picks to draft an inactive player? Quote
1984Echoes Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: ... So if you look at it as two 3rds for a 3rd and a 5th, it isn't that bad...... It's our 3rd this year and TWO 3rds in 2026. So it's THREE 3rds (2025 #102) for a 3rd (2025 #70) and two 6ths. Quote
buddha Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago looks like levi and paschal will be playing a lot of de this year. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: I trust Brad. Every year he gets questioned. Every year he seems to do it right. He's been a great drafter no doubt, but Levi, Paschal, Hooker, and Martin are examples where he underwhelmed or maybe got it wrong. Levi has been good now that he's healthy, but it took a while to get there. Paschal hasn't been anything special but he's been a decent rotational DL. Hooker and Martin were wasted picks IMO. Quote
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