2025 NFL Draft

[Motor City Sonics]

NFL teams look for Game Managers at QB now.    They all have talent if they are considered for the draft. 

I am thinking they just don't see him as a leader, but I think another issue might be his father.    Teams don't want the constant "Are you going to hire Deion questions?"     I think the Ball brothers lost draft value in the NBA because of their father and the non stop circus and I think it might be similar here. 

Something tells me he had an attitude like Ryan Leaf in this interviews.   The Colts said after interviewing Leaf they immediately knew they didn't want to draft him.   Some in the Chargers organization warned the GM about him.  That he just wasn't going to buy in 100% and totally immerse himself into the game.     That's what teams are looking for - and honestly they should with the money they're gonna pay these guys.  

[MichiganCardinal]

12 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

NFL teams look for Game Managers at QB now.    They all have talent if they are considered for the draft. 

I am thinking they just don't see him as a leader, but I think another issue might be his father.    Teams don't want the constant "Are you going to hire Deion questions?"     I think the Ball brothers lost draft value in the NBA because of their father and the non stop circus and I think it might be similar here. 

Something tells me he had an attitude like Ryan Leaf in this interviews.   The Colts said after interviewing Leaf they immediately knew they didn't want to draft him.   Some in the Chargers organization warned the GM about him.  That he just wasn't going to buy in 100% and totally immerse himself into the game.     That's what teams are looking for - and honestly they should with the money they're gonna pay these guys.  

I think it's both. The talent removed him from 1st round consideration. The intangibles and obnoxious father are getting him removed from draft boards altogether.

[Motor City Sonics]

10 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I think it's both. The talent removed him from 1st round consideration. The intangibles and obnoxious father are getting him removed from draft boards altogether.

And Rich Eisen had a point last night.    You're heading into day 3 and this is the time where you're drafting backups and are teams going to want to pick a guy as a backup who will be getting all the attention?          Maybe there is a team out there that doesn't want their players getting all the attention, so they'd be fine with the backup QB.   But imagine this.  I'll just throw a random team out there -  The Miami Dolphins.     Tua is one hit away from it being over (he probably should have retired already).  Maybe the Dolphins don't want the spotlight on him at all times, maybe they draft Sanders, but every time Tua misses a pass or has a bad game or even limps, Dad is going to be on Social Media talking about how his son should take over.   That might be the biggest thing.    Deion would never shut up.     I think it's already ridiculous that he retired his son's number, but teams are thinking about that angle too.    Is this kid so transcendent that he's worth all that?  The GM's aspirin budget would go up too.   

Edited 7 hours ago by Motor City Sonics

[Motor City Sonics]

Oh, and the race issue will of course come up.    Cam Ward and Jalen Milroe are black, so it might not be that.   He must have interviewed epically bad. 

[MichiganCardinal]

The Patriots have 4.106, 5.143, and 5.145. He may go to them there. The Cowboys have 5.148. That is also possible. Rams at 4.126 as well. I don't think he has a floor at this point though. He may well go undrafted.

Probably an outside shot the Steelers still take him, but it seems like they're destined for Aaron Rodgers, so they may ask for Rodgers' blessing before taking Shedeur.

Raiders maybe, but they had three chances in the 3rd round. Vikings and Bucs make the list of possibilities, but further down. Chargers might be a dark horse because you can never predict Jim Harbaugh's next move.

[1984Echoes]

10 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

To me it's not necessarily about what guys they could've potentially drafted in those slots, it's the fact that they have value which can come in handy if say we wanted to go trade for a veteran next season like ...

 

I have a couple of takes... including on Randy's point:

1) I see a lot of veterans that get moved for a pick returning really, only 6th's or 7th's. Maybe Brad is stocking up on some of these late rounders in anticipation of this? He's not looking to trade 1sts or 2nds for a star, but rather, 6th's or 7th's to pick up a depth player to cover for an injury, or similar...? Just a guess.

2) My other take is: Not only is it getting really hard for 3/4/5th's to make this team... but ALSO: if you release them at the end of training camp it's harder to slip them over to the Practice Squad. And Holmes especially is going to have a hard time slipping those picks to the PS because it's getting known around the league that he's a pretty good judge of football players. HOWEVER... those 6th and 7th rounders are all projects. Long shots. Practice Squad players. Maybe Holmes is INTENTIONALLY stocking up on 6ths and 7ths, both for future trades, but also because he may have his eyes on several guys that he wants to draft and develop, and those guys will all be in the last two rounds and are easier to slip onto the Practice Squad without other teams' raiding his guys.

 

That's my conspiracy theory anyways...

[Jason_R]

His dad did not do him any favors. No coach wants the threat of getting replaced by Deion Sanders hanging over his head. 

[buddha]

16 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Oh, and the race issue will of course come up.    Cam Ward and Jalen Milroe are black, so it might not be that.   He must have interviewed epically bad. 

future president stephen a smith compared him to colin kapernick already.  race hustlers gonna race hustle.

the only cause shedeur sanders stood for is himself.  which is why he didnt get drafted.  this guy has thrown his teammates under the bus as many times as he's thrown td passes.  

someone will take him early in round 4.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

NFL teams look for Game Managers at QB now.    They all have talent if they are considered for the draft. 

I am thinking they just don't see him as a leader, but I think another issue might be his father.    Teams don't want the constant "Are you going to hire Deion questions?"     I think the Ball brothers lost draft value in the NBA because of their father and the non stop circus and I think it might be similar here. 

Something tells me he had an attitude like Ryan Leaf in this interviews.   The Colts said after interviewing Leaf they immediately knew they didn't want to draft him.   Some in the Chargers organization warned the GM about him.  That he just wasn't going to buy in 100% and totally immerse himself into the game.     That's what teams are looking for - and honestly they should with the money they're gonna pay these guys.  

Distractions can destroy an NFL locker room. And fans screaming for a QB change never helps a team. I don't want that guy anywhere near Detroit. I think he would fit perfectly in Chicago. Every incomplete pass Caleb throws, fans would scream to put Samders in. 🤣🤣

[Tigeraholic1]

17 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

His dad did not do him any favors. No coach wants the threat of getting replaced by Deion Sanders hanging over his head. 

I coached travel baseball for years. Daddy ball teams were the first teams knocked out of D1 tourneys...

[Motor City Sonics]

11 minutes ago, buddha said:

future president stephen a smith compared him to colin kapernick already.  race hustlers gonna race hustle.

the only cause shedeur sanders stood for is himself.  which is why he didnt get drafted.  this guy has thrown his teammates under the bus as many times as he's thrown td passes.  

someone will take him early in round 4.

I'm not sure about that now.    It's going to have to be a team that has a rock solid #1 QB that can't be questioned because if it's someone with a shaky #1 QB, Deion and his minions are going to apply outside pressure that no team wants or needs.     And as you said, "the only cause he stood for is himself".   There is a lot to that.   Things have changed.  Pure talent alone is fine for most other positions, but not QB.   Saying this is about race is such an insult to Cam Ward and Jalen Milroe.    It's about Dad now.     Teams avoided the Ball brothers in the NBA because they didn't want Dad being around causing problems.   It's going to be much worse with Deion.   He's just a big distractting neon sign.    What coach in this league wants to draft a guy knowing that people will be clamoring for his Dad to take their job?   Um....None. 

Do you think the Cleveland Browns, still smarting over that albatross DeShaun Watson, are going to want t QB with more baggage?    Nope.      

Maybe the Raiders with the 5th pick in the 4th round.  The Raiders love a good circus.    They seem to be on New Coach Every Year plan.   I'm sure they'd love having Deion around.     

After the Raiders you have

BEARS NOPE(don't need a QB), 

JETS -  MAYBE(bringing the circus to NYC spells disaster, but Woody gonna Woody), 

EAGLES NOPE (don't upset the apple cart)

SAINTS  NOPE (already drafted a QB)

49ers  NOPE (I just don't see it)

PANTHERS  NOPE (Bryce Young finally started showing last year, don't F with that)

CARDINALS    NOPE  (QB already in his prime)

DOLPHINS - POSSIBLE  (they need to start planning for a Tua-less future)

COLTS - NOT LIKELY  (Still Smarting from Richardson, they need a stabilizer)

FALCONS - MAYBE (they're good at stupid moves)

BENGLES - NOPE (why would they?)

 

I say Dolphins in he 4th round.  Take some spotlight off Tua, let him Sanders learn a little)

[Shinzaki]

Dallas should draft Sanders...That clown show is so over the top it might just swallow the Deion vortex of crazy whole

[Motor City Sonics]

1 minute ago, Shinzaki said:

Dallas should draft Sanders...That clown show is so over the top it might just swallow the Deion vortex of crazy whole

Wow, Nice start for Brian Schottenheimer.    But honestly, with all his flaws, Jerry actually gives his head coaches a chance, so maybe.   You know how the Cowboys love headlines.   Also, ESPN would probably masturbate itself to death if that happened.    

[Motor City Sonics]

In job interviews for really important positions, recruiters and HR people absolutely count how many times a candidate says I instead of We or You.        I wonder what Shedeur said in his more often.     We heard from an anonymous source that he was the worst interview the source ever experienced.    

[NYLion]

Baffling trade up for Teslaa unless he's a long term Jamo replacement. Swapping two 3rds for two 6ths to move up 30 spots into the late 2nd round is a hefty price to pay for a long term #3 WR if he's not being pegged as a long term replacement.

Even the trade up for the Ratledge seems like a slight overpay but that's a pick that makes way more sense and fills a big long term, and likely short term depending on what one thinks of Glasgow, need. Like the picks to build up the trenches but there's still a sizeable need at EDGE which doesn't appear will be filled unless Za'Darius is coming back. IF Davenport can merely give them a half seasons worth of play the way he played last season that would be a big help but, lets be honest, he's not even going to make it out of Training Camp without injury.

Edited 6 hours ago by NYLion

[Motown Bombers]

WR is a big long term need. They have St Brown. Williams will need a big contract extension, then you have the likes of 31 year old Tim Patrick and Kalif Raymond. TeSlaa gives them something they haven't really had and that is a big body receiver who can make contested catches with a good vertical. 

[CMRivdogs]

A bit more reading on TesLaa, he's a project for sure. Not afraid to bock or mix it up a bit. I can also see some appeal on special teams with his speed. I do think it was a bit much to pay for an "insurance policy".

But who knows who else was high on Brad's Board.

[MichiganCardinal]

How is TeSlaa pronounced? The capitalization probably means it's not spelled like the stock that's crashing. Teh-slaw? Like coleslaw?

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, MichiganCardinal said:

How is TeSlaa pronounced? The capitalization probably means it's not spelled like the stock that's crashing. Teh-slaw? Like coleslaw?

I've heard it pronounced te-slaw

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

I have a couple of takes... including on Randy's point:

1) I see a lot of veterans that get moved for a pick returning really, only 6th's or 7th's. Maybe Brad is stocking up on some of these late rounders in anticipation of this? He's not looking to trade 1sts or 2nds for a star, but rather, 6th's or 7th's to pick up a depth player to cover for an injury, or similar...? Just a guess.

2) My other take is: Not only is it getting really hard for 3/4/5th's to make this team... but ALSO: if you release them at the end of training camp it's harder to slip them over to the Practice Squad. And Holmes especially is going to have a hard time slipping those picks to the PS because it's getting known around the league that he's a pretty good judge of football players. HOWEVER... those 6th and 7th rounders are all projects. Long shots. Practice Squad players. Maybe Holmes is INTENTIONALLY stocking up on 6ths and 7ths, both for future trades, but also because he may have his eyes on several guys that he wants to draft and develop, and those guys will all be in the last two rounds and are easier to slip onto the Practice Squad without other teams' raiding his guys.

 

That's my conspiracy theory anyways...

 

To further expound upon this:

3) We have no 3rd's in 2026, but a 4th and a 5th next year. I'll wager Holmes trades those two picks to go up and get an early 4th or end of 3rd to go get another one of "his guys"...

[MichiganCardinal]

I don't think TeSlaa and Jamo will really play the same position in the offense FWIW.

Jamo is the prototypical Z, ASB is the prototypical slot, and TeSlaa is now the prototypical X. Of course that doesn't mean they'll each be used that way. But I see ASB as being the jack of all trade WRs, Jamo's best weaponization as being the deep bomb, and in a perfect world, TeSlaa's best usage being as a big bodied threat in the end zone who will go up and win 50/50 battles. They're just each different receivers.

[1984Echoes]

But they all block.

Imperative in a Lions offense. And on a Lions roster.

Both DC and BH have made that abundantly clear.

[NYLion]

12 hours ago, buddha said:

but that's the thing, he was really good at taking guys in the middle rounds.  stop trading away those picks that could end up being alim mcneil or amon ra.

watch, come round 6 somebody will have fallen and the lions will snatch them up.  like mahogany last year.

Alim McNeil and Kerby Joseph were his first two 3rd round picks. Why this man doesn't want to cook with more picks is beyond me. I get that they have an overcrowded roster but these are long term picks in the mid to late rounds, draft a bunch of guys and you're bound to find a diamond or two in the rough the way this regime drafts and if you do give up that much draft capital you better be sure this prospect is not only going to be a starter but an impact starter. Quite a leap of faith for a player that's going to be a #3WR at best for the next one or two years.

[NYLion]

17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

WR is a big long term need. They have St Brown. Williams will need a big contract extension, then you have the likes of 31 year old Tim Patrick and Kalif Raymond. TeSlaa gives them something they haven't really had and that is a big body receiver who can make contested catches with a good vertical. 

If he adequately replaces Jamo then this is a justifiable trade, anything less and it's poor value IMO. I mean, if he's another Tim Patrick level guy, that's just not good enough for what they gave up.

[1984Echoes]

2 minutes ago, NYLion said:

If he adequately replaces Jamo then this is a justifiable trade, anything less and it's poor value IMO. I mean, if he's another Tim Patrick level guy, that's just not good enough for what they gave up.

He's not replacing Jamo at Z.

He "patterned" his game after Puka Nacua (in one of his interviews somewhere, I forget which one)...

So...

We are getting Puka Nacua 2.0 at X, not Jamo at Z.

Book it.