gehringer_2 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 minutes ago, mtutiger said: When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail always double down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail I dispute this narrative Springfield is a small town. As a Ohio Senator he should know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, mtutiger said: When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail I dispute this narrative Springfield is a small town. As a Ohio Senator he should know that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 The German Judge weighs in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 John Heilleman on Morning Joe had this...paraphrased but essentially... The Harris team were popping champagne and the Trump people were popping Klonopin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IdahoBert Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Trump campaign after “debate.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 If the election were next Tuesday, I think Kamala wins walking away. But if the election had been held in September 2016, Hillary probably walks away with it too. The campaign needs to have a plan to sustain this success and ride the wave for two more months. Continue to attack and allow him to attack himself. No complacency. The road here should be easier than Hillary’s, because there is eight years of public opinion out on Trump now. But you can’t rest on your laurels. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 hours ago, mtutiger said: When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail The new Republican hubris will be to use “meme” in place of “lie”, as in, “nobody in the media cared about the issue of 20,000 migrants in a small Ohio town until we memed* about migrants kidnapping dogs and cats and eating them.” * - i.e., lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 50 minutes ago, romad1 said: And yet, 37% of voters still told CNN they thought he won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 14 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: If the election were next Tuesday, I think Kamala wins walking away. But if the election had been held in September 2016, Hillary probably walks away with it too. The campaign needs to have a plan to sustain this success and ride the wave for two more months. Continue to attack and allow him to attack himself. No complacency. The road here should be easier than Hillary’s, because there is eight years of public opinion out on Trump now. But you can’t rest on your laurels. I actually agree with this and partly think it's why they immediately challenged him to another debate... It's gotta be all gas no brakes going forward. More interviews, more events 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 The inevitable conspiracy theory in the right wing fever swamps is that Kamala destroyed him in the debate because she wore audio earrings. Uh huh…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I do have a concern that the MSM will follow the RWM’s lead and focus not on the fact that Kamala crushed Trump with a combination of calling him on his horse**** and then burying him with facts, but rather, that she merely figured out how to get under his skin, which would constitute a lower order of victory that easier to dismiss. I’m already seeing that as the main takeaway this morning in NYT and WaPo and VOX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 The media has a vested interest in a dog fight not a route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 8 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: again Trump's abject stupidity may save us all I don't know. Unfortunately there's a lot of abject stupidity still supporting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 8 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: Harris is now demanding more debates! That’s fine, and we’d all love to see a repeat performace, although I can see where Trump agrees to it only if they have it hosted by Fox in front of a handpicked MAGA audience, which would force Kamala to either accept those terms as is, or look like a chicken for rejecting or even trying to negotiate them. And if she did accept those terms, that would also give Fox the chance to constantly fact-check Kamala the way ABC did last night, except while using Trump’s lies in place of facts, as the braying morons in the audience hoot and holler, with no one there to correct the record, and the zone gets completely reflooded with confusion and drivel and just nonsense in general. Something like might actually serve to reset Trump as a serious candidate with a 50-50 chance to win, at which point if he falls short in the count, they can try to use lawfare and the Supreme Court to put him back in the White House, and there’s at least a ghost of a chance that would work. If that’s the direction it goes, Kamala will have to figure out how to prevent this from happening without looking like she’s ducking him, for which she’d get roundly criticized by the horse race-loving MSM. Edited September 11 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 16 minutes ago, chasfh said: I do have a concern that the MSM will follow the RWM’s lead and focus not on the fact that Kamala crushed Trump with a combination of calling him on his horse**** and then burying him with facts, but rather, that she merely figured out how to get under his skin, which would constitute a lower order of victory that easier to dismiss. I’m already seeing that as the main takeaway this morning in NYT and WaPo and VOX. I'm not sure that is all that helpful to Trump, particularly if it feeds a narrative about his own age and infirmity. Case in point: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hongbit Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 44 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I actually agree with this and partly think it's why they immediately challenged him to another debate... It's gotta be all gas no brakes going forward. More interviews, more events Thanks to the 2023 New York Jets, I cringe whenever I hear “All Gas No Brakes”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 58 minutes ago, chasfh said: And yet, 37% of voters still told CNN they thought he won. But that's a ****ing blowout. I mean these things are usually considered lopsided at 55-45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 31 minutes ago, casimir said: I don't know. Unfortunately there's a lot of abject stupidity still supporting him. Trump could BBQ a poodle in Times Square and they’d still vote for him. Because “poodles are nasty” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 George Conway's impression of Donald Trump when Kamala came over to shake his hand. Which was an absolute power move by Kamala, My Kamala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 So this Haitian eating pets thing started with a picture of a black man (origin unknown) carrying a dead good in Columbus, Ohio? Um..........he wasn't eating it -- and it was probably not a pet and people actually do eat large birds.......that's not unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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