Watching the debate? Why?

[gehringer_2]

  On 9/11/2024 at 5:25 AM, mtutiger said:

When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail

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always double down

[Edman85]

  On 9/11/2024 at 5:25 AM, mtutiger said:

When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail

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I dispute this narrative Springfield is a small town. As a Ohio Senator he should know that.

[Edman85]

  On 9/11/2024 at 5:25 AM, mtutiger said:

When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail

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I dispute this narrative Springfield is a small town. As a Ohio Senator he should know that.

[romad1]

 

[romad1]

 

[CMRivdogs]

The German Judge weighs in

 

 

[romad1]

John Heilleman on Morning Joe had this...paraphrased but essentially... The Harris team were popping champagne and the Trump people were popping Klonopin

[mtutiger]

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[IdahoBert]

Trump campaign after “debate.”

[MichiganCardinal]

If the election were next Tuesday, I think Kamala wins walking away. But if the election had been held in September 2016, Hillary probably walks away with it too.

The campaign needs to have a plan to sustain this success and ride the wave for two more months. Continue to attack and allow him to attack himself. No complacency. The road here should be easier than Hillary’s, because there is eight years of public opinion out on Trump now. But you can’t rest on your laurels.

[chasfh]

  On 9/11/2024 at 5:25 AM, mtutiger said:

When you're the hammer, everything looks like a nail

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The new Republican hubris will be to use “meme” in place of “lie”, as in, “nobody in the media cared about the issue of 20,000 migrants in a small Ohio town until we memed* about migrants kidnapping dogs and cats and eating them.”

* - i.e., lied.

[chasfh]

  On 9/11/2024 at 10:14 AM, romad1 said:

 

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And yet, 37% of voters still told CNN they thought he won.

[mtutiger]

  On 9/11/2024 at 10:57 AM, MichiganCardinal said:

If the election were next Tuesday, I think Kamala wins walking away. But if the election had been held in September 2016, Hillary probably walks away with it too.

The campaign needs to have a plan to sustain this success and ride the wave for two more months. Continue to attack and allow him to attack himself. No complacency. The road here should be easier than Hillary’s, because there is eight years of public opinion out on Trump now. But you can’t rest on your laurels.

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I actually agree with this and partly think it's why they immediately challenged him to another debate...

It's gotta be all gas no brakes going forward. More interviews, more events

[Tigerbomb13]

The inevitable conspiracy theory in the right wing fever swamps is that Kamala destroyed him in the debate because she wore audio earrings. Uh huh….

[chasfh]

I do have a concern that the MSM will follow the RWM’s lead and focus not on the fact that Kamala crushed Trump with a combination of calling him on his horse**** and then burying him with facts, but rather, that she merely figured out how to get under his skin, which would constitute a lower order of victory that easier to dismiss. I’m already seeing that as the main takeaway this morning in NYT and WaPo and VOX.

[romad1]

The media has a vested interest in a dog fight not a route. 

[casimir]

  On 9/11/2024 at 3:21 AM, RatkoVarda said:

again Trump's abject stupidity may save us all

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I don't know.  Unfortunately there's a lot of abject stupidity still supporting him.

[chasfh]

  On 9/11/2024 at 3:36 AM, RatkoVarda said:

Harris is now demanding more debates!

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That’s fine, and we’d all love to see a repeat performace, although I can see where Trump agrees to it only if they have it hosted by Fox in front of a handpicked MAGA audience, which would force Kamala to either accept those terms as is, or look like a chicken for rejecting or even trying to negotiate them.

And if she did accept those terms, that would also give Fox the chance to constantly fact-check Kamala the way ABC did last night, except while using Trump’s lies in place of facts, as the braying morons in the audience hoot and holler, with no one there to correct the record, and the zone gets completely reflooded with confusion and drivel and just nonsense in general.

Something like might actually serve to reset Trump as a serious candidate with a 50-50 chance to win, at which point if he falls short in the count, they can try to use lawfare and the Supreme Court to put him back in the White House, and there’s at least a ghost of a chance that would work.

If that’s the direction it goes, Kamala will have to figure out how to prevent this from happening without looking like she’s ducking him, for which she’d get roundly criticized by the horse race-loving MSM.

 

Edited September 11, 2024 by chasfh

[mtutiger]

  On 9/11/2024 at 11:20 AM, chasfh said:

I do have a concern that the MSM will follow the RWM’s lead and focus not on the fact that Kamala crushed Trump with a combination of calling him on his horse**** and then burying him with facts, but rather, that she merely figured out how to get under his skin, which would constitute a lower order of victory that easier to dismiss. I’m already seeing that as the main takeaway this morning in NYT and WaPo and VOX.

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I'm not sure that is all that helpful to Trump, particularly if it feeds a narrative about his own age and infirmity. Case in point:

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Hongbit]

  On 9/11/2024 at 11:13 AM, mtutiger said:

I actually agree with this and partly think it's why they immediately challenged him to another debate...

It's gotta be all gas no brakes going forward. More interviews, more events

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Thanks to the 2023 New York Jets, I cringe whenever I hear “All Gas No Brakes”. 

[Motor City Sonics]

  On 9/11/2024 at 11:05 AM, chasfh said:

And yet, 37% of voters still told CNN they thought he won.

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But that's a ****ing blowout.   I mean these things are usually considered lopsided at 55-45.  

[CMRivdogs]

  On 9/11/2024 at 11:32 AM, casimir said:

I don't know.  Unfortunately there's a lot of abject stupidity still supporting him.

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Trump could BBQ a poodle in Times Square and they’d still vote for him. Because “poodles are nasty”

[Motor City Sonics]

George Conway's impression of Donald Trump when Kamala came over to shake his hand.    Which was an absolute power move by Kamala, My Kamala. 

 

[Motor City Sonics]

So this Haitian eating pets thing started with a picture of a black man (origin unknown) carrying a dead good in Columbus, Ohio?   

Um..........he wasn't eating it -- and it was probably not a pet and people actually do eat large birds.......that's not unusual.