World Politics Thread

[Motown Bombers]

 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[gehringer_2]

On second view,  the result in France is not quite all sweetness and light. Le Pen's party still grew substantially and was only prevented from larger gains by an uneasy coalition between the center and left that may end up being unworkable. 

[SkyBlue]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

On second view,  the result in France is not quite all sweetness and light. Le Pen's party still grew substantially and was only prevented from larger gains by an uneasy coalition between the center and left that may end up being unworkable. 

Think i saw vote totals were along lines of 

Macron almost 7m votes

Socialists  7m votes

LePen 10m votes

[chasfh]

I wonder how much the threat of Trump beating Biden here in the States drove voters in Britain and France to the polls to repudiate their own right wingers. I would bet that influenced the outcome a lot.

As long as there are free and fair elections, hard right wingers will lose practically everywhere in the First World. There are only two ways I can think for them to win: (1) fix the election upfront; (2) overturn the election results after the fact. After that, staying in power is all about the muscle.

[chasfh]

Also, liberalism on the march even outside the First World.

Some pundit made the point that this doesn't matter because Iran's "supreme leader holds the reins". While this may be true in a technical respect, the people are making their wishes known here, so we'll see whetehr it makes a difference.

[Tigeraholic1]

Meanwhile in GB

 

Edited July 18, 2024 by Tigeraholic1

[romad1]

9 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Meanwhile in GB

 

What is your game?

[Tigeraholic1]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

What is your game?

Oh I’m sorry I can’t have a voice? What game? Is everything fine in  Britain? Am I being bamboozled by the RW? Tell me what I am allowed to say. I see you never responded to the pictures of Biden wandering around with no mask when you said “I saw a video” what’s your game?

[Dan Gilmore]

Your phrasing it as “wandering around” tells me everything about your objectivity. 

[Tigeraholic1]

1 minute ago, Dan Gilmore said:

Your phrasing it as “wandering around” tells me everything about your objectivity. 

I am so sorry once again the gang chimes in. Biden was walking in really straight lines NOT wearing a mask around all his staffers and SS detail AFTER he told the world he had COVID 19. I was told that wearing a mask prevents the spread of COVID 19 but that no longer applies. 

[mtutiger]

Didn't Britain literally just have an election? One where Nigel Farage's party won four seats out of 650?

Edited July 19, 2024 by mtutiger

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I am so sorry once again the gang chimes in. 

I mean, this is a message board. People tend to converse on message boards.

[gehringer_2]

39 minutes ago, romad1 said:

What is your game?

I guess he never studied English geography either.

[Tigeraholic1]

7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I guess he never studied English geography either.

Please explain just how dumb this high school drop out is. I am always open to be educated, thanks G.

[romad1]

42 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Oh I’m sorry I can’t have a voice? What game? Is everything fine in  Britain? Am I being bamboozled by the RW? Tell me what I am allowed to say. I see you never responded to the pictures of Biden wandering around with no mask when you said “I saw a video” what’s your game?

My relatives in the UK are staunch Tory's.  The one line I got out of her was "we threw a bunch of charlatans out" and that pretty much corresponds to how I would have felt too.  They were very pro-EU and that entire BREXIT fiasco was populist bull****.  Britain was better off in the EU and Europe and the West are better off in NATO. 

Toss all this race war fear-mongering.  I'm not having it.   Stop selling crazy.

[romad1]

Another thing about the UK.  The brown people in the Tory party were about the same as the number of brown people in Labour.  The PM was from South Asia, the previous PM was Ukrainian.  Liz Truss was a head of cabbage.  They may have their Nigel Farage types but they know that racism is a non-starter on a broad scale.  Unless people make it that way with fear-mongering.

[gehringer_2]

4 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Please explain just how dumb this high school drop out is. I am always open to be educated, thanks G.

A riot in Leeds is not Islamists taking over London - misses by about 270K. A riot in Leeds is to London what a riot in Chicago is to DC.

[gehringer_2]

the Sky news reporting (https://news.sky.com/story/police-car-flipped-on-to-its-side-as-unrest-breaks-out-in-leeds-13180593) indicates this started as some locals were mad about social services actions. Doesn't sound exactly like threat to the  nation stuff, but who knows?

"The owner of a restaurant in Harehills said the disorder was linked to local children being taken into care, adding that some people responded by setting fires and "throwing stones".

[romad1]

We had riots in the United States.   I guess that means the US was this close to being swept up by Christo-fascist madmen.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jd-vance-uk-trump-running-mate-islamist-country-b2581061.html

[Tigeraholic1]

38 minutes ago, romad1 said:

We had riots in the United States.   I guess that means the US was this close to being swept up by Christo-fascist madmen.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jd-vance-uk-trump-running-mate-islamist-country-b2581061.html

Yes the Christians are the biggest evil facing our country. Maybe we should just round them all up?
Still don’t want to talk about Biden not protecting his staff by wearing a mask? 

[romad1]

3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Yes the Christians are the biggest evil facing our country. Maybe we should just round them all up?
Still don’t want to talk about Biden not protecting his staff by wearing a mask? 

I realize you are having a lot of fun expressing your uniquely self-formed views on the computer machine. 

Maybe, don't try to dragoon me into church or any particular church.  Maybe don't try to scrap the Constitution to allow the kleptocracy to fly on the wings of the theocrats.  Maybe realize this is a melting pot where we benefit from the Rule of Law. 

[Tigeraholic1]

2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

I realize you are having a lot of fun expressing your uniquely self-formed views on the computer machine. 

Maybe, don't try to dragoon me into church or any particular church.  Maybe don't try to scrap the Constitution to allow the kleptocracy to fly on the wings of the theocrats.  Maybe realize this is a melting pot where we benefit from the Rule of Law. 

I said I wanted to scrap the constitution? 

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

the Sky news reporting (https://news.sky.com/story/police-car-flipped-on-to-its-side-as-unrest-breaks-out-in-leeds-13180593) indicates this started as some locals were mad about social services actions. Doesn't sound exactly like threat to the  nation stuff, but who knows?

"The owner of a restaurant in Harehills said the disorder was linked to local children being taken into care, adding that some people responded by setting fires and "throwing stones".

Color me surprised that there may be more to the story than what the Blue Check guy who makes money getting people angry said

[romad1]

16 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I said I wanted to scrap the constitution? 

You can't advocate for theocrats and then claim you defend the constitution.