RandyMarsh Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said: Dont forget stupid Jason Kubel Yeah Kubel was a killer, I was gonna say Joe Crede too but went back and looked and he did most of his killing with the White Sox, only spent one year with the Twins but it felt like it was more than that. Edited September 27 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Listening to 97.1 and of course Valenti and his fellow Detroit sports hater Rico give all the credit to this situation on the Twins collapse and not the Tigers play. Said something like "none of this would even matter if the Twins didn't collapse so they are the whole reason you are going to the playoffs." Of course nobody corrects them and tells them that the Tigers very well could finish ahead of the Royals and possibly even the Orioles so even if the Twins didn't collapse at the very least this weekend would be meaningful and have playoff implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 So what have I missed about Carpenter, is he hurt? Pinch hitter yesterday, then pinch hit for, not in today’s lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Just now, lordstanley said: So what have I missed about Carpenter, is he hurt? Pinch hitter yesterday, then pinch hit for, not in today’s lineup RH heavy lineup for vs LHP. don't worry he'll be in once the LHP is out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Also on the radio today Stoney and Jim Costa were talking about the importance of Trey Sweeney and how his call up almost corresponds right with our turnaround so it got me thinking, just from a win loss standpoint would we be in this same situation if we kept Flaherty and instead played with our inferior SS options? I guess you'd have to go back and look at how the games went in Flaherty's potential starts but with how successful our Bullpen/Opener games have been its hard to think that we would've won many more with Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 31 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Listening to 97.1 and of course Valenti and his fellow Detroit sports hater Rico give all the credit to this situation on the Twins collapse and not the Tigers play. Said something like "none of this would even matter if the Twins didn't collapse so they are the whole reason you are going to the playoffs." Of course nobody corrects them and tells them that the Tigers very well could finish ahead of the Royals and possibly even the Orioles so even if the Twins didn't collapse at the very least this weekend would be meaningful and have playoff implications. This kind of logic is ignorant. Yes, the Twins going 3-7 helped the Tigers. Yes the Royals losing 7 in a row recently helped the Tigers. But the Tigers have gone 9-1. And on the flip side, the Tigers going 3-7 helped the Twins and the Royals. The Tigers going 3-9 in early August helped the Twins and Royals. Why don't people discredit them for only getting a lead at another team's expense? Why is it the team charging at the end get dinged because someone else is losing? I know it's news to talk radio knobs that baseball goes for 162 games. Teams go to the playoffs because other teams lose. That's how sports works. It doesn't matter when they lose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 A lot of things turned at or around the same time. Productivity from Meadows, Riley, Torkelson, Sweeney, Keith, Carpenter all on an upswing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 my twitter feed has conflicting information on the relationship between Trey Sweeney and Sydney Sweeney. One post says they cousins, another says they are not related and another says they are the same person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeytargets39 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 40 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Yeah Kubel was a killer, I was gonna say Joe Crede too but went back and looked and he did most of his killing with the White Sox, only spent one year with the Twins but it felt like it was more than that. Crede was such a pain in the ass. You just unearthed some buried trauma for me. 😂 David DeJesus and Mark Teahen used to drive me nuts too. The earlier versions of Alex Gordon and Whit Merrifield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Valente has shown the Tigers plenty of love - specifically Fetter and Hinch -- but he's not wrong about the Twins collapse being the main reason this great run could pay off with a playoff appearance. If the Twins and Royals even go four games under .500 over the same period, the Tigers aren't even close. It's okay to acknowledge that their collapses are just as crucial to this as the Tigers incredible run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 minute ago, holygoat said: Valente has shown the Tigers plenty of love - specifically Fetter and Hinch -- but he's not wrong about the Twins collapse being the main reason this great run could pay off with a playoff appearance. If the Twins and Royals even go four games under .500 over the same period, the Tigers aren't even close. It's okay to acknowledge that their collapses are just as crucial to this as the Tigers incredible run. It's too bad for the Twins and KC that baseball doesn't end the season after 120 games. The Tigers poor early season record allowed those teams to build a lead. The Twins and Royals poor play in the late season allowed the Tigers to catch them by winning at a .650 clip. But we never would have caught them if we weren't playing great baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 23 minutes ago, romad1 said: my twitter feed has conflicting information on the relationship between Trey Sweeney and Sydney Sweeney. One post says they cousins, another says they are not related and another says they are the same person. Would that make me gay? Not that there’s anything wro….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 48 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Also on the radio today Stoney and Jim Costa were talking about the importance of Trey Sweeney and how his call up almost corresponds right with our turnaround so it got me thinking, just from a win loss standpoint would we be in this same situation if we kept Flaherty and instead played with our inferior SS options? Flaherty has pitched 55 good innings for LAD, he was a little better in Det, but regardless, Hinch covered those 55 innings just fine. (with added bonus of getting 3 young arms some ML experience). assuming Javy would have season-ending surgery in either scenario, having Sweeney as SS is a HUGE part of the surge; I don't think it would have happened with Kreidler and McKinstry at SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 8 minutes ago, holygoat said: Valente has shown the Tigers plenty of love - specifically Fetter and Hinch -- but he's not wrong about the Twins collapse being the main reason this great run could pay off with a playoff appearance. If the Twins and Royals even go four games under .500 over the same period, the Tigers aren't even close. It's okay to acknowledge that their collapses are just as crucial to this as the Tigers incredible run. And the Tigers “collapse” earlier this year is just as crucial to those teams runs until recently. By saying what he says he’s implying it’s due to some strange event instead of just a team playing just over .500 over 162 games. Maybe MN and KC aren’t as good as their records indicated 10 days ago. Teams that win 83-88 games will have stretches like that. Some come in April and others come in September. This is Valenti just being a blowhard trying to sound smarter than others because a bunch of new baseball fans showed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 37 minutes ago, romad1 said: my twitter feed has conflicting information on the relationship between Trey Sweeney and Sydney Sweeney. One post says they cousins, another says they are not related and another says they are the same person. Not sure. Just know it’s Trey Sweeney with the Tigers and Sydney Sweeney with the twins. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 minute ago, lordstanley said: Not sure. Just know it’s Trey Sweeney with the Tigers and Sydney Sweeney with the twins. THAT WAS OFF THE TOP OF THE TURNBUCKLE!!!! NICE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 3 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Not sure. Just know it’s Trey Sweeney with the Tigers and Sydney Sweeney with the twins. My wife watched that Rom Com she made and afterwards said “I gotta admit…. Her boobs are pretty awesome “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) 28 minutes ago, holygoat said: Valente has shown the Tigers plenty of love - specifically Fetter and Hinch -- but he's not wrong about the Twins collapse being the main reason this great run could pay off with a playoff appearance. If the Twins and Royals even go four games under .500 over the same period, the Tigers aren't even close. It's okay to acknowledge that their collapses are just as crucial to this as the Tigers incredible run. Aside from the point that Oblong has made the fact is that we also caught the Royals as well and have an outside chance of catching the Orioles too so its not just the Twins. Edited September 27 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 16 minutes ago, oblong said: And the Tigers “collapse” earlier this year is just as crucial to those teams runs until recently. By saying what he says he’s implying it’s due to some strange event instead of just a team playing just over .500 over 162 games. Maybe MN and KC aren’t as good as their records indicated 10 days ago. Teams that win 83-88 games will have stretches like that. Some come in April and others come in September. This is Valenti just being a blowhard trying to sound smarter than others because a bunch of new baseball fans showed up. Yeah, on a similar note I've read and heard people say that Hinch shouldn't be up for Manager of the Year cause it's not "Manager of the month" but if the Tigers were in the exact same situation except they went on this current run in say June or July nobody would be saying that, instead they would just look at their record for the year and how he took a young team with a depleted rotation to the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 13 minutes ago, oblong said: My wife watched that Rom Com she made and afterwards said “I gotta admit…. Her boobs are pretty awesome “ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 8 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Yeah, on a similar note I've read and heard people say that Hinch shouldn't be up for Manager of the Year cause it's not "Manager of the month" but if the Tigers were in the exact same situation except they went on this current run in say June or July nobody would be saying that, instead they would just look at their record for the year and how he took a young team with a depleted rotation to the playoffs. The sportswriters of America will never vote for Hinch. The stench of the Houston cheating scandal will follow him the rest of his career. IMO, he deserves to win manager of the year but sportswriters are total jerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Just now, Sports_Freak said: The sportswriters of America will never vote for Hinch. The stench of the Houston cheating scandal will follow him the rest of his career. IMO, he deserves to win manager of the year but sportswriters are total jerks. Admittedly I haven't looked at how the other managers have been other than just their respective teams records but one thing about Hinch is that he has done a great job of actually managing the game. It's not like he is just penciling in the same starting pitchers and lineup every game and the Tigers are overachieving due to the players playing over their heads. He is actually mixing and matching the roster to put them in the best position to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 A post in this X thread notes that the Twins have lost 7 games since mid-August with an 80% or higher win probability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 10 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Admittedly I haven't looked at how the other managers have been other than just their respective teams records but one thing about Hinch is that he has done a great job of actually managing the game. It's not like he is just penciling in the same starting pitchers and lineup every game and the Tigers are overachieving due to the players playing over their heads. He is actually mixing and matching the roster to put them in the best position to succeed. I've been very critical of him all season but it's usually hindsight. An after-the-fact knee-jerk reaction. With the roster he's had to work with all season? And certain players not performing? He's been nothing short of amazing. I've seen people saying the Cleveland manager will win manager of the year just because they won the division. And KC lost over 100 games all year and are close to making the playoffs. But nobody has done a better job than Hinch, nobody. At least, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Bewbs...who doesn't love em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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