2024 DETROIT TIGERS POST SEASON THREAD

[Motor City Sonics]

I just wanted to see that thread title, but yes, it does deserve it's own thread.  

[Motor City Sonics]

TBS POSTSEASON BASEBALL commercial still shows a quick clip of a Twins player. 

 

Might want to update that, you losers. 

[KL2]

9 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

TBS POSTSEASON BASEBALL commercial still shows a quick clip of a Twins player. 

 

Might want to update that, you losers. 

https://x.com/TheYzerPlan/status/1839717249705185567?t=wo8CFzirAxbvbQ0UPSyV2g&s=19

[RatkoVarda]

IMO

14 - Rogers, Dingler, Tork, Keith, Sweeney, McKinstry, Jung, Ibanez, Greene, Meadows, Carpenter, Vierling, Perez, Malloy.

12 - Skubal, Olson, Jobe, Montero, Holton, Vest, Foley, Brieske, Guenther, Hurter, Hanifee, Mize

Madden and Maeda are out

 

[casimir]

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

TBS POSTSEASON BASEBALL commercial still shows a quick clip of a Twins player. 

 

Might want to update that, you losers. 

Who cares.  Just win and advance.  I don’t need TBS’ adulation.

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

IMO

14 - Rogers, Dingler, Tork, Keith, Sweeney, McKinstry, Jung, Ibanez, Greene, Meadows, Carpenter, Vierling, Perez, Malloy.

12 - Skubal, Olson, Jobe, Montero, Holton, Vest, Foley, Brieske, Guenther, Hurter, Hanifee, Mize

Madden and Maeda are out

 

Looks about right.  I think they can reset after every round, so you basically want to optimize for a 3 game series. 12 pitchers seems right for 3 games.

Edited September 28, 2024 by Tenacious D

[Motor City Sonics]

9 hours ago, casimir said:

Who cares.  Just win and advance.  I don’t need TBS’ adulation.

I think it actually works in the Tigers favor.   Keeps that underdog vibe alive. 

[Motor City Sonics]

HEY, LYNN HENNING 

 

[Sports_Freak]

11 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

IMO

14 - Rogers, Dingler, Tork, Keith, Sweeney, McKinstry, Jung, Ibanez, Greene, Meadows, Carpenter, Vierling, Perez, Malloy.

12 - Skubal, Olson, Jobe, Montero, Holton, Vest, Foley, Brieske, Guenther, Hurter, Hanifee, Mize

Madden and Maeda are out

 

I don't know. Whoever pitches bulk innings tomorrow will probably be left off the wildcard 3 game series. Unless Hinch uses several pitchers to split the start up.

[guy incognito]

11 hours ago, casimir said:

Who cares.  Just win and advance.  I don’t need TBS’ adulation.

Just give us a decent picture so we can mute the sound and put Dickerson and company on, please and thank you.

 

Edited September 29, 2024 by guy incognito

[guy incognito]

 

[IdahoBert]

All these TBS games will be on MAX. 

[Motor City Sonics]

I always wondered about the Dombrowsi/Avila regime and their lack of positional talent from our own system.   

Were they bad at judging talent?

Were they bad at developing talent? 

Was it a little of both? 

 

But this run has helped me see that Al Avila may have been a decent judge of future talent, but never knew how to get the best out of that talent and develop it. 

He does deserve some credit for this season.   A lot of guys he drafted are part of this

 

If you look at individual stats, very few hitters are showing eye-opening stats, but as a collective it's working.   The Giants team that Harris GM'd back in 2021 won 107 games.   If you look at the individual stats, nothing stands out.  Only 1 guy hit over .300 (Buster Posey) and nobody had more than 30 home runs (4 with 20+).   Their offense was better than the Tigers this year, but they just used timely, situational hitting.    The Tigers seem to be -" it's okay to go 1 for 5 - just make sure your 1 lines up with several other's 1's"  Own an inning, maybe 2.  

 

People are wondering about how they are getting guys with ERA over 5 in the Minors to be under 3 in the Majors.   It's all about placement.   In the minors you want your prospects pithing against every kind of hitter and every kind of situation to see what you've got - you let them struggle.    Hinch/Fetter only put their pitchers in situations where they are likely to thrive.     This 3 starter/2 opener rotation  (or even 2:3) may actually be their strategy next season because it worked so well.   Having a staff of 3 starters and 10 relievers may be way to go - especially with the cost of starting pitcher.   Having a 3/10 split may allow them to sign Tarik Skubal long term without nearly as much pain. 

 

It's not magical, it's surgical. 

 

Edited September 29, 2024 by Motor City Sonics

[Motor City Sonics]

By the way, 

I do think that Rob Manfred is going to try to force a mandate that a starter has to go 5 (or 6) innings.  I don't know how you enforce that.  Pitcher could just say "my arm is tired" to the ump.     I think the small market teams, the low payroll teams should fight Manfred on this with everything they've got.   This might be how a small market team who can't afford a bunch of high-end starters gets a chance to do what the Tigers did this year.      First you tell us how many pitchers we're allowed to have and now you're going to tell us how to use them?   Screw you, Rob.   

And it irks me to hear the Tigers lumped in as "small-market".   Metro Detroit has over 4 million people.  We're not a small market.   And with a deeper commitment to electric vehicles and high-tech, the area population should start to see some growth in the next few years.  

[Cruzer1]

Right now, the Tigers are getting an extra draft pick every year.  I don't mind what they call the Tigers. Small market it is. 

[Tenacious D]

I think part of Dombrowski’s lack of success drafting impact players was our typical draft position—we had a good record for many of his seasons. A couple of hits along the way, including Verlander, Porcello and Castellanos (the latter two fell to us prior to the current draft pool being established).  He was also masterful at trading his prospect capital for established players that played important roles. Player development didn’t seem to be a strength or area he leaned into.  But hard to argue with the results.

[Sports_Freak]

Post season schedule;

 

[Tenacious D]

That sucks.  

[KL2]

Well that awful

[ben9753]

All 3 games are in Houston? They don’t get game 2 at home?

[Sports_Freak]

Just now, ben9753 said:

All 3 games are in Houston? They don’t get game 2 at home?

All first round games are at the top seed.

[KL2]

1 minute ago, ben9753 said:

All 3 games are in Houston? They don’t get game 2 at home?

Not since the playoffs expanded.

[oblong]

Just now, ben9753 said:

All 3 games are in Houston? They don’t get game 2 at home?

No.  Reduces travel days. They thought the one game WC format was too random and they could add another team by making them just a best of 3 at the higher seed. Otherwise schedule goes on too long.  I’m ok with it.  Want a home game?  Win more.  

[Tenacious D]

Selfishly, I’ll be stuck at work and getting updates from my phone.  But really sucks for kids who will be in class for at least the first hour of each game.

[Sports_Freak]

6 minutes ago, KL2 said:

Not since the playoffs expanded.

Even if they win 2 out of 3 to beat Houston, the first 2 games of the next round would be on the road. Best of 5 against Cleveland.