Week Five: BYE

[lordstanley]

 

[Hongbit]

RIP Greg Landry.   Although I usually refer to Gary Danielson as thr first childhood QB that I remember, it really was Landry.  He was not a very good QB on some not very good teams.    
 

[Shinzaki]

As I recall..Landry was pretty good at times...at one point he had the record for most rushing yards in a season by a QB...until Bobby Douglass went for just under a thousand yds in a 14 game season.

Without looking up his stats...I think injuries were an issue

[number20]

6 hours ago, Hongbit said:

He was not a very good QB  
 

That's not true at all. He had some decent years. I remember his '71 season. First-team All-Pro, and also selected to the Pro Bowl that year

 

[Sports_Freak]

On this off day, enjoy a little MCDC;

 

[MichiganCardinal]

On 10/5/2024 at 9:37 AM, Hongbit said:

RIP Greg Landry.   Although I usually refer to Gary Danielson as thr first childhood QB that I remember, it really was Landry.  He was not a very good QB on some not very good teams.    
 

My childhood QBs were Joey Harrington, Jeff Garcia, and Jon Kitna before Matt Stafford came along, so consider yourself lucky.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Bengals lost again and they're now 1-4. They're out of the playoff picture now. It's time for Cincinnati to have a garage sale and sell some players. This front office knows way more than I do, but wishing and speculating are what make being a fan fun. I want Brad Holmes on the phone with Duke Tobin and inquiring about Trey Hendrickson.

[MichiganCardinal]

2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Bengals lost again and they're now 1-4. They're out of the playoff picture now. It's time for Cincinnati to have a garage sale and sell some players. This front office knows way more than I do, but wishing and speculating are what make being a fan fun. I want Brad Holmes on the phone with Duke Tobin and inquiring about Trey Hendrickson.

I think it’s wishful thinking to think an all-in Bengals team is selling two games out of the wildcard with 12 left to play.

[TP_Fan]

The giants defense stuffing the Seahawks so far.  Geno 25 yards, Walker 2 yards. 1 catch for metcalf, into the second quarter. They look like the greatest offense of all time whenever they play Aaron Glenn.  Today, not so much.  Not a surprise.  

[gehringer_2]

On 10/5/2024 at 3:46 PM, number20 said:

That's not true at all. He had some decent years. I remember his '71 season. First-team All-Pro, and also selected to the Pro Bowl that year

Yeah, Landry was probably good enough to win in that day's NFL, but the Lions never built a complete team under WCF. At best it was a star player here and there but never a fundamentally sound or deep team.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I think it’s wishful thinking to think an all-in Bengals team is selling two games out of the wildcard with 12 left to play.

Only 5% of teams that start 1-4 end up making the playoffs. Their season is over and there is a strong possibility they fire Zac Taylor. If Taylor is gone too then a retool will may in order to retool around Burrow. With Hendrickson turning 30 this season, he might age out of their timeline. At minimum we should be calling them.

We all think we need an edge rusher, but maybe the front office doesn't think so. But no one could deny that putting Hendrickson opposite Hutch wouldn't be a pass rush force. 

Edited October 6 by Mr.TaterSalad

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Pride of Detroit: Would a trade for Trey Hendrickson make sense for Detroit Lions?

[TP_Fan]

Seahawks offense scores 13 and looks lifeless against a horrible giants team.   Aaron Glenn continues to keep the hopes and dreams alive for every offense in football. After watching this game it’s just amazing how bad Glenn is.  Giants played a mix of zone and man, kept everyone off balance and geno was geno, a bottom 3rd QB in the NFL.

[MichiganCardinal]

10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Only 5% of teams that start 1-4 end up making the playoffs. Their season is over and there is a strong possibility they fire Zac Taylor. If Taylor is gone too then a retool will may in order to retool around Burrow. With Hendrickson turning 30 this season, he might age out of their timeline. At minimum we should be calling them.

We all think we need an edge rusher, but maybe the front office doesn't think so. But no one could deny that putting Hendrickson opposite Hutch wouldn't be a pass rush force. 

But the Bengals are better than 99% of 1-4 teams. And even if they're not, it's what their front office is thinking. It's not just Zac Taylor on the line, Duke Tobin's seat is hot too. And he's not going to get an extension by selling their best players.

[Jason_R]

15 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Only 5% of teams that start 1-4 end up making the playoffs. Their season is over and there is a strong possibility they fire Zac Taylor. If Taylor is gone too then a retool will may in order to retool around Burrow. With Hendrickson turning 30 this season, he might age out of their timeline. At minimum we should be calling them.

We all think we need an edge rusher, but maybe the front office doesn't think so. But no one could deny that putting Hendrickson opposite Hutch wouldn't be a pass rush force. 

16 game season. 

[MichiganCardinal]

Just now, TP_Fan said:

Seahawks offense scores 13 and looks lifeless against a horrible giants team.   Aaron Glenn continues to keep the hopes and dreams alive for every offense in football. After watching this game it’s just amazing how bad Glenn is.  Giants played a mix of zone and man, kept everyone off balance and geno was geno, a bottom 3rd QB in the NFL.

But that's happening every week.

Lions beat the Rams, Rams go onto lose 41-10 to the Cardinals; Lions lose to the Bucs, Bucs go onto lose 26-7 to the Broncos; Lions beat the Cardinals, Cardinals go onto lose 42-14 to the Commanders; Lions beat the Seahawks, Seahawks go onto lose 29-20 to the Giants.

We are getting teams' best punch. They know we are one of the teams to beat in the NFC, and they're leaving it all on the field. I don't see any relation to Aaron Glenn.

[TP_Fan]

3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

But that's happening every week.

Lions beat the Rams, Rams go onto lose 41-10 to the Cardinals; Lions lose to the Bucs, Bucs go onto lose 26-7 to the Broncos; Lions beat the Cardinals, Cardinals go onto lose 42-14 to the Commanders; Lions beat the Seahawks, Seahawks go onto lose 29-20 to the Giants.

We are getting teams' best punch. They know we are one of the teams to beat in the NFC, and they're leaving it all on the field. I don't see any relation to Aaron Glenn.

I am not buying the best punch.   I’m buying the opposing team is getting the easiest road.  Our defense continues to make superstars out of everyone it faces.  And then middling teams have no problem with the same offense. 

[Jason_R]

3 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

My childhood QBs were Joey Harrington, Jeff Garcia, and Jon Kitna before Matt Stafford came along, so consider yourself lucky.

Wait a second. Some of us lived through those guys, after having lived through Eric Hipple, Chuck Long, Rusty Hilger, Bob Gagliano, Rodney Peete, Andre Ware, Charlie Batch, Gus Frerotte, Ty Detmer, and Mike McMahon, with the highlights being Erik Kramer and one good season of Scott Mitchell. So consider yourself lucky. 😂

[MichiganCardinal]

10 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

I am not buying the best punch.   I’m buying the opposing team is getting the easiest road.  Our defense continues to make superstars out of everyone it faces.  And then middling teams have no problem with the same offense. 

We are 3-1 and the defense is allowing the 9th fewest points per game of any team in the NFL.

[gehringer_2]

52 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

We are 3-1 and the defense is allowing the 9th fewest points per game of any team in the NFL.

A team isn't likely to go from a poor D to a great D in one off-season. The Lions are a good team, but in the end it's still likely to be injury attrition that will be the difference between which of the good teams survive to end up still standing after December. 

[Jimbo]

I really don't like the comparison for teams each week in the NFL.  I think its a bad way to explain how good an offense or defense is.  This year is even worse for that.  I just don't think you can say the Lions defense is terrible because Giants held Seattle to only 20 points and they got 29 on us.  BTW, its not like were talking about 20 points (its only 9 more points).  There are only so many factors each week.  One thing to consider is it was a short week for Seattle.  Another is not bringing your A game against a bad Giants team (without Nabers).  So many factors that you can't just say its because of this 1 thing (Glenn is terrible).  This has always been a factor in the NFL although I think this year has been crazy with unpredictable games.

 

One a different note.  I am curious how good everyone thinks both Minnesota and Washington are.  Are either team (or both) a wild card team, division winner, or super bowl contender?  I wouldn't be surprised if both teams with their division but don't make it to the NFC championship (they both have pretty good schedules outside of their division).  I think we have a better chance of winning the division than Philly or Dallas although its going to be tough.  We have some tough road games coming up.  That last game of the year could be the deciding factor.  Green bay still could make a push as well.   Washington could have the best shot at getting the best record in the NFC because I think we are going to beat each other up in our division.  Next week is a good test for them against Balt. 

[Motor City Sonics]

Do they give a King's Ransom for Maxx?   

[Woodrowjr]

12 hours ago, TP_Fan said:

I am not buying the best punch.   I’m buying the opposing team is getting the easiest road.  Our defense continues to make superstars out of everyone it faces.  And then middling teams have no problem with the same offense. 

Are you watching the same games I am?  Baker Mayfield has looked pretty good against everyone not named the Lions this year.  We kept Kyler Murray in check.  

The problem on defense is from penalties.  Not scheme.

[KnoxP]

13 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

But the Bengals are better than 99% of 1-4 teams. And even if they're not, it's what their front office is thinking. It's not just Zac Taylor on the line, Duke Tobin's seat is hot too. And he's not going to get an extension by selling their best players.

All the Hendrickson talk aside, I agree. Problem is the Bengals are losing just like that 99% of other teams, so we'll see if they pull out of this or become another of those 99%.

They have placed themselves up against it for sure.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

16 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

But the Bengals are better than 99% of 1-4 teams. And even if they're not, it's what their front office is thinking. It's not just Zac Taylor on the line, Duke Tobin's seat is hot too. And he's not going to get an extension by selling their best players.

Do you think other front offices in the league, who are on the inside, look at the Bengals as a potential playoff team at this point or are other front offices starting to look towards the trade deadline and who the Bengals might be willing to part with? If I had to guess, teams are still taking the Bengals seriously because of the offensive talent they have, but that they realistically know it's going to be next to impossible for them to make the playoffs sitting at 1-4.

Edited October 7 by Mr.TaterSalad