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10/2/24 2:32PM Tigers @ Astros Wild Card Game 2


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21 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

My YouTube TV is always 2 pitches behind the MLB at bat app. Sometimes, when I get really nervous, I'll check it to see what's gonna happen. Yeah, I cheat....lol

When I’m listening to the radio on my phone, I always have AtBat up and it’s usually a pitch ahead of radio, but there were times today when Dan was a pitch or two ahead of AtBat, which had never happened until today. I heard that Minute Maid Park had some technical issues today and I wonder if this anomaly was a part of that. 

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1 hour ago, Arlington said:

I bet there never has been a playoff win without a single pitcher going 2 innings.  Probably not a loss either.  This has to be the first.  What a brilliant strategy.  This is going to revolutionize the game.

Also, considering the Tigers had a 0.2 chance of making the playoffs.  That is the equivalent of a once-in-a-500 year event.  Winning the wildcard round, sweeping the wildcard round, makes that what, an once-in-an-800 year event?  I think Fangraphs had their odds a little understated, but jeez, wow.  

It wasn't really a strategy of choice, but rather a strategy of necessity caused by not having enough starters.  Hinch/Fetter excuted it beautifully and they got some momentum going, but I don't think it's something that's going to work consistently.  We might see more bullpen games from teams in the future. but I don't anticipate teams copying the strategy of basically having one regular starter for the last two months and into the playoffs.  

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3 hours ago, Jason_R said:

Cards had Pujols, Molina, and a bunch of other big name vets  

Mets had young Tom Seaver, Tug McGraw, and Nolan Ryan. 

64 Cards had young McCarver, Curt Flood, Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, oh and Roger Craig. 

Right, what the Tigers are doing is unprecedented.  

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54 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

My YouTube TV is always 2 pitches behind the MLB at bat app. Sometimes, when I get really nervous, I'll check it to see what's gonna happen. Yeah, I cheat....lol

There is a default setting on YouTube TV that delays live sports feeds by ~30 seconds. It's to account for network interruptions. If your internet goes out for less than the delay, you never know because the feed just adjusts automatically. I learned this when I was getting play updates for Lions games before I saw them.

If you have a fast and reliable network though, I recommend shutting it off. I did and haven't had any issues.

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2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

 but I don't anticipate teams copying the strategy of basically having one regular starter for the last two months and into the playoffs.  

No, not at all!

OTOH, I think you might start seeing more teams that have short rotations move away from trying to force incapable pitchers into regular starting roles at the 4/5 spots and instead increase us of planned bullpen games instead.

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13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

It wasn't really a strategy of choice, but rather a strategy of necessity caused by not having enough starters.  Hinch/Fetter excuted it beautifully and they got some momentum going, but I don't think it's something that's going to work consistently.  We might see more bullpen games from teams in the future. but I don't anticipate teams copying the strategy of basically having one regular starter for the last two months and into the playoffs.  

I never thought or suggested it go to the extreme Hinch did but for several years myself and I'm sure a bunch of others thought this method maybe a better option than throwing out 2-3 sub par starters in your rotation. I was thinking that if you have say 3 reliable starters start those guys every other day then in the other games use relievers for 2-3 innings at a time. 

I theorized if you had a 13 man staff having the 3 legit starters, 6-7 guys that could go 40 or so pitches 3x a week and 3-4 traditional 1 inning back of the bullpen guys. But what AJ has done is way more extreme than what I was thinking. 

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7 hours ago, lordstanley said:

I remember, in the old days, I assumed we were all seeing the game at the same time. Figured maybe a 5-second delay or so from people in the ballpark. I'd bring my radio to the game and it would be described exactly the same time I was seeing it. 

Now? My tv feed was 20 seconds behind the MLB At Bat radio feed. The MLB app was showing pitch results about 2 seconds before I heard the radio feed. The Canadian TV stations were showing the ABC feed about 5 seconds before my ABC station was. Sirius XM in my car or via my ios app is a good one minute behind the TV broadcast feed.

for game 1, my MLB radio feed (laptop web browser) was perfectly synched with the TV (OTA+Tivo) to start with. I was shocked. there was a bit of drift as the game went on, mainly the video getting ahead of the audio. just had to pause my Tivo for a second a few times to keep it in sync. game 2 was a little more varied, but it was still always the TV getting ahead of the radio, so still an easy fix.

I'll have to get a Sling subscription or something for the ALDS (and hopefully ALCS). not sure how that will go. I assume I won't be able to pause the video, so I'm hoping the audio will be ahead so that I can pause that to get it synched.

I would gratefully accept any suggestions for streaming services that carry TBS and allow pausing.

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8 minutes ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

for game 1, my MLB radio feed (laptop web browser) was perfectly synched with the TV (OTA+Tivo) to start with. I was shocked. there was a bit of drift as the game went on, mainly the video getting ahead of the audio. just had to pause my Tivo for a second a few times to keep it in sync. game 2 was a little more varied, but it was still always the TV getting ahead of the radio, so still an easy fix.

I'll have to get a Sling subscription or something for the ALDS (and hopefully ALCS). not sure how that will go. I assume I won't be able to pause the video, so I'm hoping the audio will be ahead so that I can pause that to get it synched.

I would gratefully accept any suggestions for streaming services that carry TBS and allow pausing.

MAX is carrying all AL playoff games including the pennant championship series. It’s a very serendipitous situation if you already have MAX. 

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7 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

I never thought or suggested it go to the extreme Hinch did but for several years myself and I'm sure a bunch of others thought this method maybe a better option than throwing out 2-3 sub par starters in your rotation. I was thinking that if you have say 3 reliable starters start those guys every other day then in the other games use relievers for 2-3 innings at a time. 

I theorized if you had a 13 man staff having the 3 legit starters, 6-7 guys that could go 40 or so pitches 3x a week and 3-4 traditional 1 inning back of the bullpen guys. But what AJ has done is way more extreme than what I was thinking. 

yeah, I think it can work with three above average starters and then the other two days can be bullpen games.  I have suggested that in the past.  I don't think what the Tigers are doing now is something that is likely to work consistenly well over the long term.  You'd need to have a collection of top notch relievers and keep them all healthy over a full season which becomes more difficult as relievers get over used. And if every team tried to do the same thing, I don't think there would be enough MLB quality relievers to go around.  

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9 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

It wasn't really a strategy of choice, but rather a strategy of necessity caused by not having enough starters.  Hinch/Fetter excuted it beautifully and they got some momentum going, but I don't think it's something that's going to work consistently.  We might see more bullpen games from teams in the future. but I don't anticipate teams copying the strategy of basically having one regular starter for the last two months and into the playoffs.  

ive always been in the "managers dont really matter until the playoffs" camp, but this year's performance by hinch was master class.

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19 minutes ago, chasfh said:

And Bobby Scales with the underrated follow-up! I’ve come to like him a lot better this year.

Bobby has done a tremendous job improving the last half of this season. If Dirks is going to be on TV most of the time now, I prefer Bobby over everyone else. AA does a fine job too, but I don't think he wants the gig full time. 

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35 minutes ago, buddha said:

ive always been in the "managers dont really matter until the playoffs" camp, but this year's performance by hinch was master class.

He is certainly making the case that managers can make a difference.  I think the thing is that most folks see that as in game stuff and game results.  But there's more to that role than just telling guys to throw strikes.

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7 minutes ago, casimir said:

He is certainly making the case that managers can make a difference.  I think the thing is that most folks see that as in game stuff and game results.  But there's more to that role than just telling guys to throw strikes.

Also, i think Brad Ausmus squandered a lot of talent in his time.  

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