chasfh Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 13 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: If you do this, you’re walking away from Jace Jung. There is no other obvious spot for him. Now, if Bergman could go back to SS, that would make a big difference, but I doubt he’d have the range to be effective. I’d prefer we focus on upgrading 1B and make a run at Alonso. Alonso is staying in Queens, and Bergman is staying in Houston. One of this administration’s main goals is to keep players focused on working well with each other and creating harmony and camaraderie. They are all young and making not much dough, so injecting a high-priced superstar into the mix could create be a tricky balance. After all, this team started taking off the very day their moody, high-priced, underachieving shortstop took his leave, and it hasn’t escaped my notice that he is not anywhere near the team during this playoff run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Bregman Tell that to iOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I am not confident that Jung is any better than Torkelson, Yup. Jace's track record is pretty short and he didn't hit significantly better in the minors than Torkelson did. You can always be optimistic, but it's more hope over data at this point. You have to look at the differential upgrade though. I don't think paying huge dollars to upgrade Torkelson is going to add as much to the offense differentially as Bregman would. But he's going to want way more years than I think the Tigers are willing to even think about contemplating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeytargets39 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I’d rather lock up Riley and Skubal if possible and then see if we can get friendly extensions signed with Carpenter and Vierling. Not wild about going after high priced position players. No need for big outside egos to come in and potentially throw off our harmony with matchup substitutions. Just give the young guys all another run back next year and realize that we still have Clark/McGonigle/Lee/Briceno/Rainier coming up behind them. Then go try to get Jack Flaherty to come back here and give Jobe a rotation spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 31 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I am not confident that Jung is any better than Torkelson, but Alonso is another player I wouldn't mind seeing them pursue. And if Jung is better that Torkelson, they could put Bregman at third and try Jung at first. Bingo. People penciling Jung in at 3rd for 2025 are jumping the gun in a major way IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate7474 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I think I make a hard run at Bregman to play 3rd. He knows Hinch and I’ve never heard anything negative on their relationship. Also always positive about Bergman’s leadership in the clubhouse. He’s very good on both sides and balances to the lineup being a righty. I would get Jung experience at 1st base or use him as trade bait to bring in pitching depth. i would try to add a 2 or 3 type arm for the rotation and possible a backup SS unless they want to keep McKinstry in that role. Cut Maeda and Baez and wish them well. look to try and get extensions done with key contributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 As I read the tea leaves, I would not expect much in the way of free agent signings unless the season ticket sales are through the roof by December 31. The 50 million dollar Bally infusion looks to be gone, and it's very unclear what a replacement will provide. The attendence to the Tigers games was 750,000 below the median, which is probably equates to a minimum of 80 million dollars of gross revenue. The net starting point for revenue for the Tigers is roughly 130 million dollars below an median MLB team. With a strong post season performance, I would expect that some of the 130 million would be made up. My guess is that spending will be an RP, a low tier SP, and a reclamation project. If season ticket sales for 2025 boom between now and the end of the year, things might change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 (edited) 51 minutes ago, HeyAbbott said: As I read the tea leaves, I would not expect much in the way of free agent signings unless the season ticket sales are through the roof by December 31. The 50 million dollar Bally infusion looks to be gone, and it's very unclear what a replacement will provide. The attendence to the Tigers games was 750,000 below the median, which is probably equates to a minimum of 80 million dollars of gross revenue. The net starting point for revenue for the Tigers is roughly 130 million dollars below an median MLB team. With a strong post season performance, I would expect that some of the 130 million would be made up. My guess is that spending will be an RP, a low tier SP, and a reclamation project. If season ticket sales for 2025 boom between now and the end of the year, things might change. We really need right handed power, but when I look at the guys available vs Ibanez and Malloy, there aren't many obvious upgrades. I like the youth movement and the Tigers have been burned on so many contracts. I'm fine with Harris' strategy of one or two year contracts with guys who have something to prove. Edit to clarify Ibanez and Malloy have been very good against lefties compared to available free agents. Edited October 4 by Tigermojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 3 hours ago, chasfh said: Alonso is staying in Queens, and Bergman is staying in Houston. One of this administration’s main goals is to keep players focused on working well with each other and creating harmony and camaraderie. They are all young and making not much dough, so injecting a high-priced superstar into the mix could create be a tricky balance. After all, this team started taking off the very day their moody, high-priced, underachieving shortstop took his leave, and it hasn’t escaped my notice that he is not anywhere near the team during this playoff run. I’m OK with growing our own purple pixie dust buds in our underground climate controlled hydroponic greenhouse, and seeing how that turns out. In addition to filling a few blanks that don’t cost $60 million a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 3 hours ago, chasfh said: Alonso is staying in Queens, and Bergman is staying in Houston. I doubt they are coming to Detroit, but I doubt they’re staying put either. They will go to the highest bidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Maybe Malloy blossoms into more than just a RH DH; maybe Ibanez crushes LPH all year instead of 1/2 a season; maybe Dingler puts up a OPS over 500; even so, they need RH power hitter; does not have to be a free agent; easier written than done, but if they can pry from another team an established young bat - maybe one who is on same time line as the current core - they can then spend FA money on pitching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, chasfh said: Alonso is staying in Queens, and Bergman is staying in Houston. One of this administration’s main goals is to keep players focused on working well with each other and creating harmony and camaraderie. They are all young and making not much dough, so injecting a high-priced superstar into the mix could create be a tricky balance. After all, this team started taking off the very day their moody, high-priced, underachieving shortstop took his leave, and it hasn’t escaped my notice that he is not anywhere near the team during this playoff run. I really doubt everything came together just because Baez was a cancer and all the young players suddenly felt better after he was gone. They were already starting to play better before he went on the IL. They did even better after he left, because they got his terrible bat out of the line-up and added some other players who had been in the minors or were hurt. If they acquired Bregman or Alonso and they hit, they would help the team. If they didn't hit, they would not help the team. The run they have been on since August 10 has been amazing, but I don't believe they are as good as their record during that span. If they came back with the same group next year, I don't believe they would do as well. At the same time, I do think they are pretty close to being a team that can be a perennial contender and it seems like the the right time to start spending. I do think they need another good bat, which could come from free agency or trade. They also need at another starter and a couple of relievers. I hope they try to acquire all of those things this off-season. Edited October 4 by Tiger337 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Overconfident much? What a jerk! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 20 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I really doubt everything came together just because Baez was a cancer and all the young players suddenly felt better after he was gone. They were already starting to play better before he went on the IL. They did even better after he left, because they got his terrible bat out of the line-up and added some other players who had been in the minors or were hurt. If they acquired Bregman or Alonso and they hit, they would help the team. If they didn't hit, they would not help the team. The run they have been on since August 10 has been amazing, but I don't believe they are as good as their record during that span. If they came back with the same group next year, I don't believe they would do as well. At the same time, I do think they are pretty close to being a team that can be a perennial contender and it seems like the the right time to start spending. I do think they need another good bat, which could come from free agency or trade. They also need at another starter and a couple of relievers. I hope they try to acquire all of those things this off-season. Well, yeah. The run they're on has them playing what... .720 ball or better? No team can keep that up. And BP days over an entire season probably won't work. I would take their needs a bit further, say they need 2 starting pitchers, at least 1 more BP arms and a quality RH bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Overconfident much? What a jerk! This guy should have been a weather forecaster. He’s wasting his talents here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Overconfident much? What a jerk! In his defense atleast he put up a follow video eating crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 9 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: In his defense atleast he put up a follow video eating crow. But instead of giving the Tigers credit, he just read off the Houston players who failed. Yeah, the runs they scored were on a fielders choice and a foul pop-up. Credit goes to Tigers pitchers and AJ for pushing all the right buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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