Hongbit Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 The more I think about it maybe the best move is to let Tarik decide. Does he want to stay on normal rest or does he want the ball in Game 1. Let him make the call. He knows better than anyone if short rest would make any difference in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger2022 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 They won't pitch him game 1. Olson has to start sometime. If the Tigers can win that game and then Skubal's start, they can hold him back for game 5 if needed and if not he can start the alcs game 1. My question is what is the point of having Mize on the roster? I get if you don't carry him, that might cause bad blood next season, but he sucks anyway and is basically a #4 starter. Other than blowout, does he get in a game? I don't know if there were any other options but it seems a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 11 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: They won't pitch him game 1. Olson has to start sometime. If the Tigers can win that game and then Skubal's start, they can hold him back for game 5 if needed and if not he can start the alcs game 1. My question is what is the point of having Mize on the roster? I get if you don't carry him, that might cause bad blood next season, but he sucks anyway and is basically a #4 starter. Other than blowout, does he get in a game? I don't know if there were any other options but it seems a waste. I think the other options were Maeda and Montero. I don't think either of them would be any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I think the other options were Maeda and Montero. I don't think either of them would be any better. I would have brought Montero over Mize up until the last few weeks of season. He turned back into a pumpkin. Edited October 3 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I don't think they are worried about making him mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, oblong said: I'd rather save him for game 2 just because if you can steal game 1, then you are in great shape to come home 2-0. If you don't, you are in great shape for a split on regular rest. There wll be two off days before game 1, and 2 more between games 1 and 3 to rest the guys that go in game 1 and if Skubal has a good game then you only need a couple there. But I see the logic in going 1-4 as well. If they win the series then whatever option they pick will be considerred genius. People.... I know its been a while and maybe some of us feel a bit out of place. The Tigers are a legitimate playoff team capable of beating any other remaining team left in the tourney. Ain't no need to steal a game. Win the games. Win all the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaDreaming Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 This "When is Skubal starting" discussion just gives us a little taste of what is being discussed by the Guardian staff as they try to plan for the Tigers. None of us will know until we have to know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 minutes ago, CaliforniaDreaming said: This "When is Skubal starting" discussion just gives us a little taste of what is being discussed by the Guardian staff as they try to plan for the Tigers. None of us will know until we have to know... Might as well leave them sleepless at night worried about when Skubal takes the bump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 19 minutes ago, casimir said: People.... I know its been a while and maybe some of us feel a bit out of place. The Tigers are a legitimate playoff team capable of beating any other remaining team left in the tourney. Ain't no need to steal a game. Win the games. Win all the games. I say that about any team on the road in game 1 of a playoff series. Has nothing to do with the talent or expectations of the participants. They are the lower seeded team and that's the typical terminology used.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades of Deivi Cruz Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I found the good news of having the Yankees in the playoffs. We get to avoid having Costas/Darling call our games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 I wonder whether there will be sizeable contingents of Tigers fans at the Cleveland games and/or Guardians fans at the Detroit games. I’d say the former is far more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger2022 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 It's not like the Guardians have a rotation full of Cy Young candidates. Bibee is good but after that it's a bit weak. The problem is once they get to their bullpen, the Tigers are in trouble. And they need to not pitch to Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 26 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said: I found the good news of having the Yankees in the playoffs. We get to avoid having Costas/Darling call our games. Costas did PBP for the Twins-Tigers series in 1987, I remember that distinctly. I don't recall him doing in any series in 2006, 2011-2014 (I may be wrong). So if he had drawn the Tigers' series this year, that could have meant 37 years between series by the same announcer. Some type of record maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNation Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, Hongbit said: I guess it comes down to me being more scared of possibly losing the series in 4 games and Skubal only pitching once than I am of him possibly struggling in Game 1 on short rest. A must win game 4 is no more valuable than a must win game 5. We'll need to win a non Skubal start either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNation Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, Hongbit said: The more I think about it maybe the best move is to let Tarik decide. Does he want to stay on normal rest or does he want the ball in Game 1. Let him make the call. He knows better than anyone if short rest would make any difference in this situation. If he's never done it before, he would have no idea what impact it would have on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said: All we gotta do to win this series is pitch around Jose Ramirez And, also, don't let Cleveland's bullpen make an appearance. 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TigerNation said: If he's never done it before, he would have no idea what impact it would have on him. He knows his arm well. He pitches on the side every week between starts. Pitching on one day less rest happens often for pitchers in the playoffs so it’s not a super rare thing. 10 minutes ago, TigerNation said: A must win game 4 is no more valuable than a must win game 5. We'll need to win a non Skubal start either way. A must win game 4 is more valuable since there is no game 5 without it. My point is it would be a shame to lose in 4 games and only pitch Skubal once because you were saving him for a game that never happened. Edited October 3 by Hongbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hzglory Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 9 minutes ago, Hongbit said: He knows his arm well. He pitches on the side every week between starts. Pitching on one day less rest happens often for pitchers in the playoffs so it’s not a super rare thing. A must win game 4 is more valuable since there is no game 5 without it. My point is it would be a shame to lose in 4 games and only pitch Skubal once because you were saving him for a game that never happened. OTOH, if we win 2 bullpen games including game 4, you then have Skubal available for Game 1 of the ALCS. If he pitches game 4, he wouldn't be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TigerNation Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: He knows his arm well. He pitches on the side every week between starts. Pitching on one day less rest happens often for pitchers in the playoffs so it’s not a super rare thing. A must win game 4 is more valuable since there is no game 5 without it. My point is it would be a shame to lose in 4 games and only pitch Skubal once because you were saving him for a game that never happened. There is no real difference between losing in 3, 4 or 5. Either way you are eliminated. None of the games are more or less valuable. It would make sense to pitch Skubal on short rest if he was set to pitch game three because then you could get two starts instead of one. Moving from two starts to starts changes nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 hours ago, oblong said: I say that about any team on the road in game 1 of a playoff series. Has nothing to do with the talent or expectations of the participants. They are the lower seeded team and that's the typical terminology used.... The first game will be a problem for Cleveland. Teams that have a long wait usually come out cold. Their hitters timing is off. Steal game 1 and have Skubal for game 2. Come back to Detroit up 2 games to none! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 The Tiger pitching staff should be in good shape. The series vs Cleveland will be 5 games in 8 days, weather looks lovely so no rainouts. Roster construction should probably remain 12 pitchers and 14 position players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 hours ago, chasfh said: And, also, don't let Cleveland's bullpen make an appearance. 😏 The Tigers beat Hader. Bring on Clase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Not sure this is as meaningful as it sounds. The playoffs have existed since 1969 and they were in the same division every year except for 4 years when the wild card era came about before the Tigers moved to the AL Central. Their only opportunity was during the wild card era and for much of that time they wouldn’t have met until the LCS. They never played the white sox in the playoffs either or the Mariners and they’ve been around since the divisional era came about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 6 minutes ago, oblong said: Not sure this is as meaningful as it sounds. right. "What couldn't happen, didn't happen, news at 11" 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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