romad1 Posted Monday at 01:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:14 PM Worrying about the national media talking about the built-in-fanbase Cowboys is like worrying about the sun coming up. Use the disrespekt as hate fuel. Which is what I suspect many of you are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted Monday at 01:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:37 PM 15 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Lions have scored 21, 21 and now 27 in their last 3 halves of football. Not bad! But....Fire Ben Johnson!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Monday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:47 PM 9 hours ago, KL2 said: Don't think Maxx qualifies as a "quick fix" pro bowl type of players, under contract for next season and from the area. he's got a $30 million cap hit this year. doesnt that hit the raiders' books if he's traded? the raiders want to deal underperforming veterans like davante adams not pro bowl de's in their prime. seems like we go through this with crosby every year now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Monday at 01:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:53 PM hassan reddick? he just doesnt seem like the lions' type of guy, but i could be wrong. would the bengals really trade hendrickson? probably not but you never know with them. someone mentioned the jaguars earlier, that might be a good place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted Monday at 02:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:01 PM 14 minutes ago, buddha said: he's got a $30 million cap hit this year. doesnt that hit the raiders' books if he's traded? the raiders want to deal underperforming veterans like davante adams not pro bowl de's in their prime. seems like we go through this with crosby every year now. Ok not sure what that has to deal with you calling him a "quick fix" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:18 PM Allen just signed a huge deal with Jacksonville. They would take a $55 million dead cap hit if they traded him. I'm not sure they are ready to pull the plug on Walker, but I wouldn't mind Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted Monday at 02:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:19 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: I want the Lions to go for it this season. Three 1sts and two 2nds? An overpay, I would say, but sure to get your guy. Insanity especially the way Holmes drafts. Hutchinson's career isn't over, they just need a guy for this year. Completely unrealistic anyway, no chance that Holmes is going to mortgage the future for one player nor should be tbh. The Lions don't need a Crosby level player to win a Superbowl but, yes, they do need a pass rusher that commands attention now. Will just have to see how the market fleshes out over the next 3 weeks as the sellers start to emerge, the Bengals winning last night was a blow although I'm not sure how realistic Hendrickson was anyway. Edited Monday at 02:50 PM by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted Monday at 03:01 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:01 PM I'm so bummed about Hutch. Should be celebrating the most fun win in a long, long time today. Instead we are mourning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Monday at 03:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:08 PM 1 hour ago, KL2 said: Ok not sure what that has to deal with you calling him a "quick fix" ok thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Monday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:10 PM 7 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I'm so bummed about Hutch. Should be celebrating the most fun win in a long, long time today. Instead we are mourning. yup. the defense was playing pretty well, but without their best player - and one of the best in the league at one of the most important positions - i expect them to fall off. right before the viqueens game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted Monday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:13 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I'm so bummed about Hutch. Should be celebrating the most fun win in a long, long time today. Instead we are mourning. It sucks especially for Hutch but I think we need to just move forward. This team is much bigger than just one person no matter how good he is, I honestly don't think the Lions will skip much of a beat not only because they have a bunch of talented guys but also because this culture runs deep. It's also good news that it appears there was no ligament/nerve damage so Hutch will very likely make a full recovery if not be stronger. My biggest concern when it happened was it being a career altering injury but it appears that the break was clean, best case scenario all things considered. Edited Monday at 03:14 PM by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichiganCardinal Posted Monday at 03:47 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:47 PM 31 minutes ago, NYLion said: It sucks especially for Hutch but I think we need to just move forward. This team is much bigger than just one person no matter how good he is, I honestly don't think the Lions will skip much of a beat not only because they have a bunch of talented guys but also because this culture runs deep. This is the right mindset for the locker room to have, and judging by the locker room talk MCDC gave afterwards, it's what they will have. I'm worried though. The identity of the defense is to completely shut down the run and do enough through the air. Part of doing enough through the air includes generating something of a pass rush. Hutch was a one-man machine out there doing that. Someone will need to step up, or QBs are going to have all day back there, and any NFL QB - from Will Levis to Pat Mahomes - will find an open receiver if you give them all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted Monday at 03:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:48 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 03:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:50 PM The pass rush still looked good after Hutchinson went out. Levi is quietly having a good year, and McNeil started to return to form. Glenn will need to get more creative with blitzes again. If they can ever get Melifonwu back, he could even help in the pass rush. If there ever was a time for James Houston to prove he is an NFL caliber pass rusher, it's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted Monday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:21 PM 16 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Hassan Reddick is still out there. I'm not sure if character wise he matches up with the Lions. They need someone to replace Hutchinson or Davenport, that ain’t Reddick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Monday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:21 PM 32 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: This is the right mindset for the locker room to have, and judging by the locker room talk MCDC gave afterwards, it's what they will have. I'm worried though. The identity of the defense is to completely shut down the run and do enough through the air. Part of doing enough through the air includes generating something of a pass rush. Hutch was a one-man machine out there doing that. Someone will need to step up, or QBs are going to have all day back there, and any NFL QB - from Will Levis to Pat Mahomes - will find an open receiver if you give them all day. hutch set the edge on defense too. helped a lot against the run. everyone knows this, but its a massive loss. he's not replaceable by many players in the LEAGUE, much less many players on the current roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Monday at 04:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:22 PM on a positive note, i was happy to see them rub it in the cowboys' face. running trick plays late in the game, running up the score, lining up skipper as eligible all game long, even at wide receiver! **** the refs, **** the league office, and **** the cowboys. it was a level of grudge holding i can appreciate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted Monday at 05:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:54 PM 2 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: This is the right mindset for the locker room to have, and judging by the locker room talk MCDC gave afterwards, it's what they will have. I'm worried though. The identity of the defense is to completely shut down the run and do enough through the air. Part of doing enough through the air includes generating something of a pass rush. Hutch was a one-man machine out there doing that. Someone will need to step up, or QBs are going to have all day back there, and any NFL QB - from Will Levis to Pat Mahomes - will find an open receiver if you give them all day. It's impossible to replace what Hutch brings but I think a collective effort of guys will help to make the loss much less painful, Paschal for one has stepped up big time. I have the utmost confidence in this group to figure it out but obviously the loss of Hutch will be felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted Monday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:01 PM (edited) This team is not going to crumble over one guy getting hurt. Not this bunch. I would say the coaches would never allow this team to get down, but the players too. They are every bit as focused here. That's why it's tricky just getting anyone to replace Hutch. It has to be the right mentality. They can't get a cancer get in. They might actually be better off covering from within. I totally trust Brad. Edited Monday at 07:01 PM by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted Monday at 07:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:13 PM 2 hours ago, buddha said: hutch set the edge on defense too. helped a lot against the run. everyone knows this, but its a massive loss. he's not replaceable by many players in the LEAGUE, much less many players on the current roster. He was the definition of a game wrecker. Would have been DPOY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Monday at 07:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:15 PM What's underrated about this Lions team is they can get pass rush up the middle. Levi is quietly having a good season. He is 11th in the NFL in pressures from interior lineman. McNeil also stepped it up last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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holygoat Posted Monday at 07:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:26 PM The Super Bowl is almost exactly 4 months from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted Monday at 07:38 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:38 PM 4 minutes ago, holygoat said: The Super Bowl is almost exactly 4 months from now. Can you imagine how storybook that would be. The way Hutch competes, I’m sure he’s devastated. He’s got that date marked and probably fully expects to be in New Orleans playing. Though I expect him to make more than one appearance at Ford Field between now and then, hyping up the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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