Sports_Freak Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I'll never complain about a win but getting outshot 2 to 1 is a bit concerning. Nice win....Kane is a sniper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 This game was an object lesson on what the Wings offense has to work on. Devils players moving constantly without the puck, someone is always open to take a pass. On the other side, the Wings still can't close out on anyone in their own zone. They constantly look down a man at even strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted October 25 Author Share Posted October 25 If anyone missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 they got their asses kicked and won by 2 goals. lol. they have no offense other than the opponent turning the pick over and their goalie having a bad night. its frighteningly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 18 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: What's Jack Hughes sore about? Because Ras is bigger than him and he fell down. Ras did nothing except score there. Jack is lucky they are good enough friends that Ras just skated away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted October 25 Author Share Posted October 25 10 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I'll never complain about a win but getting outshot 2 to 1 is a bit concerning. Nice win....Kane is a sniper. I am far from endorsing it but we just have to get used to this with Lalonde and this roster. It seems like the system is designed to grind it out as long as possible until they can get high danger scoring chances versus putting a lot of shots on net to create chances that way. The fact that the roster doesn't have much high end skill means they won't generate much outside of what's designed, so when the Wings win I think it'll be like this until the roster changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I thought Raymond played a decent game tonight - did a lot of hard work on boards. doing what? icing the puck? lobbing it up the boards to center ice? the entire wings front line did almost nothing all game. they got lucky that markstrom was off his game and they have Kane. nobody other than kane is creating much of anything. watching the devils possess the puck, pass, move, forecheck and shoot and then watching the wings desperately try to corral the puck and then dump it to center ice over and over and over is like watching them two or three years ago. to someone's earlier point, what was the point of re-signing veleno? what does he do that kasper doesnt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 4 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: I am far from endorsing it but we just have to get used to this with Lalonde and this roster. It seems like the system is designed to grind it out as long as possible until they can get high danger scoring chances versus putting a lot of shots on net to create chances that way. The fact that the roster doesn't have much high end skill means they won't generate much outside of what's designed, so when the Wings win I think it'll be like this until the roster changes. true. the real worrying thing is that other than ASP they dont seem to have a high end offensive skill player in the entire system. not unless raymond suddenly turns into the guy he was at the end of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted October 25 Author Share Posted October 25 3 minutes ago, buddha said: true. the real worrying thing is that other than ASP they dont seem to have a high end offensive skill player in the entire system. not unless raymond suddenly turns into the guy he was at the end of last year. I know he isn't your prototypical high end guy that is dancing around people, but I do think Michael Brandsegg-Nygård at least has injected some offensive skill into their prospect ranks. His shot is going to play in the NHL and he looks like a beast on the forecheck who likes to hit. I think that skill set will play well in the current NHL on the offensive side because his shot is so good. Other than that it is a lot of projection so I can't disagree with you. They have guys like Plante's playmaking ability that could translate but other than that, not much. I do think Raymond will pick it up again, I expect him to be more like the player last year than what he's shown so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 13 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: I am far from endorsing it but we just have to get used to this with Lalonde and this roster. It seems like the system is designed to grind it out as long as possible until they can get high danger scoring chances versus putting a lot of shots on net to create chances that way. The fact that the roster doesn't have much high end skill means they won't generate much outside of what's designed, so when the Wings win I think it'll be like this until the roster changes. Well, shots on goal mean much less than quality scoring chances. Having excellent goaltending even it out, I guess. But I agree, there are times when it looks like we're on an extended penalty kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 26 minutes ago, buddha said: watching the devils possess the puck, pass, move, forecheck and shoot and then watching the wings desperately try to corral the puck and then dump it to center ice over and over and over is like watching them two or three years ago. This is funny because I had thought that is exactly why they soured on Blashill - they were playing so basic/safe a style that they couldn't produce, and when Lalonde got here I remember posting that I though they were playing a better possession up tempo style, but you hit it on the head - they are playing so conservative north/south again that they refuse to reverse the puck to hold possession - they won't risk going cross ice in their own zone so their outlets are always bottled up on the boards or dump and chase and they don't have the speed for that on the secondary lines. Nor does it help that ~80% of Petry's clearing attempts are directly to the other team and 90% of Veleno's rushes also end in possession change. Those two guy alone give the puck back enough times to kill production. So either Lalonde thinks he has a worse roster than 2 yrs ago or he's turned into Blashill. But it's the passivity - mostly by Wing forwards when on D in their own zone that really drives me crazy - either pressure the puck in your own zone or go get some players that can and coach that will coach it. OK - so all that said, it's early. Maybe they are going to look better against different competition - the Rangers may make a lot of teams look bad, and maybe the Devils are going to have a good season.....maybe. Edited October 25 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: This is funny because I had thought that is exactly why they soured on Blashill - they were playing so basic/safe a style that they couldn't produce, and when Lalonde got here I remember posting that I though they were playing a better possession up tempo style, but you hit it on the head - they are playing so conservative north/south again that they refuse to reverse the puck to hold possession - they won't risk going cross ice in their own zone so their outlets are always bottled up on the boards or dump and chase and they don't have the speed for that on the secondary lines. Nor does it help that ~80% of Petry's clearing attempts are directly to the other team and 90% of Veleno's rushes also end in possession change. Those two guy alone give the puck back enough times to kill production. So either Lalonde thinks he has a worse roster than 2 yrs ago or he's turned into Blashill. But it's the passivity - mostly by Wing forwards when on D in their own zone that really drives me crazy - either pressure the puck in your own zone or go get some players that can and coach that will coach it. OK - so all that said, it's early. Maybe they are going to look better against different competition - the Rangers may make a lot of teams look bad, and maybe the Devils are going to have a good season.....maybe. the devils are weird. they just gave up 8 goals, and 6 to the caps, and then 5 in this game after dominating possession and scoring chances. i really dislike new jersey because the league gifted them multiple top picks and screwed the wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hart Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I find it hard to believe that Raymond will take a giant step backward. I’d say it’s still too early to start worrying about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Raymond leads the team in assists..he's driving play...the goals will come if he continues to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted October 25 Author Share Posted October 25 This is a really fantastic meme template Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 lafreniere: 7×7.45 less aav than raymond but less years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Matinee in Buffalo starting now. Lyon with his league-leading .955 save % is back in net. Compher returns to the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Wings give up Buffalo's first powerplay goal of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Wings being outshot by Buffalo 11-2 eight minutes into the game. The average age of the players on Buffalo's roster is the youngest in the league. The Wings are 7th oldest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Wings are looking terrible. Awkward lineup change by the Wings and Tage Thompson puts it into a wide open net moments later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 The Wings have looked terrible but a goal by DeBrincat from Seider gets them to within one at 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sagnam Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 We had a great time. The girls (and us) got to scream “JACK” all night. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Raymond....SH goal. Pretty exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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