Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Given there aren't any great QB prospects this year, I think Goff earned another year to prove if he can be the future QB. He seemed to look better when some weapons emerged. Having a QB to manage the game with no turnovers would work if we build a solid defense. We can do it much faster than most people realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Yeah, he's a must-sign. The guy really hits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Watching the Raiders/Chargers game and I didn't realize Marcus Mariota is still in the league. A highly drafted QB replaced by a veteran who was given on up by his former team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: Every win for the last 60+ years has been meaningless. Should they just go into every season trying to lose every game? We could have first overall picks at every position. No. But when you're 2-13-1 what comes from winning? Does it get you into the playoffs? no. Does some mythical winning feeling carry over? no. Does it give young players a taste of winning? did the other two wins do that? Does it help the coach keep his job? nop Do you hanve a banner with three wins instead of two? no. Go ahead point out a good reason to win in a 2-13-1 season the last week other than well I liked it. I like choclate ice cream too but if you tell me to skip it one week so I get Kathrerine Mcphee to spend the night. Goodbye chocolate ice cream. Edited January 10, 2022 by KL2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, KL2 said: No. But when you're 2-13-1 what comes from winning? Does it get you into the playoffs? no. Does some mythical winning feeling carry over? no. Does it give young players a taste of winning? did the other two wins do that? Does it help the coach keep his job? nop Do you hanve a banner with three wins instead of two? no. Go ahead point out a good reason to win in a 2-13-1 season the last week other than well I liked it. I like choclate ice cream too but if you tell me to skip it one week so I get Kathrerine Mcphee to spend the night. Goodbye chocolate ice cream. The only problem with your analogy is there is no Katherine Mcphee. We're talking the difference between picking 1 or 2 when there is no clear number 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Diggs is set to become a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: The only problem with your analogy is there is no Katherine Mcphee. We're talking the difference between picking 1 or 2 when there is no clear number 1. Remember the year we fell to #3 and got stuck with Barry Sanders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Yikes. He was going to get paid too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagnam Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: This one has me hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number20 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, KL2 said: No. But when you're 2-13-1 what comes from winning? Does it get you into the playoffs? no. Does some mythical winning feeling carry over? no. Does it give young players a taste of winning? did the other two wins do that? Does it help the coach keep his job? nop Do you hanve a banner with three wins instead of two? no. Go ahead point out a good reason to win in a 2-13-1 season the last week other than well I liked it. I like choclate ice cream too but if you tell me to skip it one week so I get Kathrerine Mcphee to spend the night. Goodbye chocolate ice cream. Throw a game to pick 1 instead of 2? In this year's draft? Why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 lol. jared goff has been complete garbage all season, but he plays a couple of good games down the stretch and now he's the answer. lol. goff is who he is. and its not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, buddha said: lol. jared goff has been complete garbage all season, but he plays a couple of good games down the stretch and now he's the answer. lol. goff is who he is. and its not good. Except he's done it before over the course of a full season multiple times and he's not exactly old. It's kind of like the situation with the Dolphins. They cut Tannehill in favor of Tua and Tannehill has played in an AFC Championship game and has the top seed in the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Motown Bombers said: Except he's done it before over the course of a full season multiple times and he's not exactly old. It's kind of like the situation with the Dolphins. They cut Tannehill in favor of Tua and Tannehill has played in an AFC Championship game and has the top seed in the AFC. he hasnt done it in years. for every example you cite about someone cutting an older qb for a younger pick there is an opposite example like mahomes or wilson. its fine to roll with goff next year because the lions arent likely to be very good anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, buddha said: he hasnt done it in years. for every example you cite about someone cutting an older qb for a younger pick there is an opposite example like mahomes or wilson. its fine to roll with goff next year because the lions arent likely to be very good anyway. There's also Matthew Stafford who was worse than Goff at this point in his career. The point is, Goff has earned the opportunity to prove if he can be the future QB next season based on his performance the 2nd half of this season and his career and not because of his contract or what the Lions roster looks like next year. If you already determined he isn't the QB, then you better draft one this year because you will need to make a decision on his contract at the end of next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I don't understand why the Chargers and Raiders are running plays. The smart move from both a coaching and analytics standpoint is to take a knee on every play and both go into the playoffs without risk injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: There's also Matthew Stafford who was worse than Goff at this point in his career. The point is, Goff has earned the opportunity to prove if he can be the future QB next season based on his performance the 2nd half of this season and his career and not because of his contract or what the Lions roster looks like next year. If you already determined he isn't the QB, then you better draft one this year because you will need to make a decision on his contract at the end of next season or you could trade for a qb or sign one, i guess. goff hasnt "earned" anything this year. he is adequate on his best day and he has a big contract that prevents him from being cut after this season. i dont know enough about scouting to know whether they should take a qb this year, but if they like a howell or a willis then they should do it with the rams pick. goff cant throw downfield and has no pocket presence and cant run. i really dont think he's anything more than a backup in today's nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, buddha said: or you could trade for a qb or sign one, i guess. goff hasnt "earned" anything this year. he is adequate on his best day and he has a big contract that prevents him from being cut after this season. i dont know enough about scouting to know whether they should take a qb this year, but if they like a howell or a willis then they should do it with the rams pick. goff cant throw downfield and has no pocket presence and cant run. i really dont think he's anything more than a backup in today's nfl. Watson, Rodgers, Wilson could all be available via trade so you might as well trade now if you're going that route. Otherwise, you are probably looking at the likes of Mayfield, Tua or Carr. Garoppolo will be a free agent by the end of next year. Not sure any are better than Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Speaking of trades, Wentz cost the Colts a 1st and 2nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: Watson, Rodgers, Wilson could all be available via trade so you might as well trade now if you're going that route. Otherwise, you are probably looking at the likes of Mayfield, Tua or Carr. Garoppolo will be a free agent by the end of next year. Not sure any are better than Goff. i would trade the rams picks for deshaun watson if he would just hurry up and pay off his extortioners. of course, so would other teams who would beat any offer the lions could make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, buddha said: its fine to roll with goff next year because the lions arent likely to be very good anyway. This. I thought the plan was 2 years of Goff and move on. Either thru the draft (best), expensive FA signing. Or give up draft capital in a trade for one. I would prefer the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: This. I thought the plan was 2 years of Goff and move on. Either thru the draft (best), expensive FA signing. Or give up draft capital in a trade for one. I would prefer the draft. i envision the lions giving up their own first rounder, the rams first rounder, and a future first rounder to trade up next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, buddha said: i envision the lions giving up their own first rounder, the rams first rounder, and a future first rounder to trade up next year. You essentially end up with nothing for Stafford except a rookie QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The Chargers and Raiders are going to OT. Do they both just kneel down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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