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5 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Hollinger has an article today predicting 28 wins for Detroit.

better than four other teams in the east.  all of whom are trying to tank this year (except for the bulls who are just bad).

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3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

28 wins seems optimistic to me. I think a lot needs to go right for that to happen. My number would be more in the 22 to 24 range.

 

Most sportsbooks had them at 24.5 a few weeks ago (I took the over at that time). Now I'm seeing more lines at 25.5, 26.5, and even 27.5. I think it's likely they hit around 28, but I'm not wiling to put money on that just yet.

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3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

28 wins seems optimistic to me. I think a lot needs to go right for that to happen. My number would be more in the 22 to 24 range.

 

They need to do better than 22-24. I know that's a decent improvement over last year but if they win under 25 that means this core ain't it and it's time blow it up. Maybe it's ambitious but if any of these players are worth a damn, Cade in particular, I expect 30+.

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4 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

28 wins seems optimistic to me. I think a lot needs to go right for that to happen. My number would be more in the 22 to 24 range.

 

the bottom of the east is really really bad.  and THIS is the year EVERYONE will tank.  

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Can Cade play 75 games?  That’s the magic question.  

He’s played 64,12,62 in 3 seasons.   If he can stay healthy then they have a great shot at 30.    That gets bolstered If Ivey can play like he has in the preseason.    
Those are two very large and uncertain if’s.  I’d guess that both are around 50/50 at best.  

I do like they have a real coach that is engaged and has a good track record with young teams.   They haven’t had that in a long time. 

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17 hours ago, buddha said:

the bottom of the east is really really bad.  and THIS is the year EVERYONE will tank.  

Yeah I was gonna preface it with something about the competition getting worse but since I didn't pay much attention to other teams this off-season I wasn't sure if that would be needed. 

But after going and looking at other teams rosters and the fact this is supposed to be one of the stronger drafts in recent memory teams tanking is something I should have accounted for. I'm guessing that is a big reason for Hollinger getting that 28 number.

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1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

Yeah I was gonna preface it with something about the competition getting worse but since I didn't pay much attention to other teams this off-season I wasn't sure if that would be needed. 

But after going and looking at other teams rosters and the fact this is supposed to be one of the stronger drafts in recent memory teams tanking is something I should have accounted for. I'm guessing that is a big reason for Hollinger getting that 28 number.

We often hear this theory, but I'm not sure it's true.

People were saying the same thing for the Wemby draft and yet there were only 4 teams under 30 wins that year compared to last year (a terrible draft) where there were 7 teams with less than 30 wins.

The bottom few teams might sit some players in Mach and April to fight for the bottom, but that's going to happen every year when teams realize they aren't making the play-in.

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