Jamo facing two game suspension??

[RedRamage]

Just put Branch in as WR. He's got the hands for it.

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

The thing about Jamo is that even in games where he doesn't produce he makes such an impact on offense being nothing more than a decoy just because of his speed so it's going to be a big loss. Shouldn't be much of a problem against the Titans but against GB it could be the difference between winning and losing. Gonna need Raymond to step up and LaPorta to return to 2023 form. 

The Lions have SO many weapons on offense, even without Jaymo. I'm telling you, we'll be fine. Really hate to see any losses but we'll probably be losing 3 or 4 more games this season, even with Williams. The division games are key, win the home games and let the other teams beat each other up.

[sagnam]

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/lions'-jamo-reportedly-being-investigated-prescribed-adderall

[Dan Gilmore]

How long is the other Williams (Isaiah) supposed to out?

[RedRamage]

19 hours ago, sagnam said:

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/lions'-jamo-reportedly-being-investigated-prescribed-adderall

If Jamo has a valid prescription for Adderall but did not inform the NFL, the NFL might be saying: "We didn't know that, show us the medical records, if it checks out we'll cancel the suspension." This seems unlikely as this would be a pretty clear-cut instance where Jamo would/should appeal.

Or the NFL might be saying: "We didn't know that, you need to inform us, the two game suspension is the penalty for not informing us." This also seems unlikely. A two game suspension for failing to report a medical status seems excessive. I could see a fine, but no a suspension.

Or the NFL might be saying: "We know you have a prescription, but I don't think it's valid." In this situation I'm assuming the NFL would think Jamo shopped around doctors until he found one willing to diagnose him as having ADHD and need meds for it. If this is the case that's opening a whole can of worms where the NFL is going to start vetting doctors. I'm nearly positive the NFL doesn't want to start do that.

[Hongbit]

The NFLPA doesn’t keep its drug policy information for members behind a paywall.  The entire thing is there for the public to view.

https://nflpa.com/active-players/drug-policies

It very clearly says that any Theraputic Use Exemptions must come from a league approved doctor (they have a 7 page list) and reported to the league immediately.   They will treat any differentiation of this as a positive test.

This would be so Jamo to again get suspended for being on the wrong side of a minor loophole.  

Edited October 24, 2024 by Hongbit

[RandyMarsh]

He could have a prescription but his levels were still too high ie he was overusing them.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[KL2]

1 hour ago, RedRamage said:

If Jamo has a valid prescription for Adderall but did not inform the NFL, the NFL might be saying: "We didn't know that, show us the medical records, if it checks out we'll cancel the suspension." This seems unlikely as this would be a pretty clear-cut instance where Jamo would/should appeal.

Or the NFL might be saying: "We didn't know that, you need to inform us, the two game suspension is the penalty for not informing us." This also seems unlikely. A two game suspension for failing to report a medical status seems excessive. I could see a fine, but no a suspension.

Or the NFL might be saying: "We know you have a prescription, but I don't think it's valid." In this situation I'm assuming the NFL would think Jamo shopped around doctors until he found one willing to diagnose him as having ADHD and need meds for it. If this is the case that's opening a whole can of worms where the NFL is going to start vetting doctors. I'm nearly positive the NFL doesn't want to start do that.

it's the middle one and its strictly enforced because without it, you dont know when something was prescribed. Anybody can say whatever date they want if they get popped. Falsifying medical records happens all the time in the US

Edited October 24, 2024 by KL2

[MichiganCardinal]

This rule seems more reasonable than the “you can gamble, but not here, here, or here” rule

Edited October 24, 2024 by MichiganCardinal

[Tigeraholic1]

34 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Best of a bad outcome anyways.

[RedRamage]

34 minutes ago, KL2 said:

it's the middle one and its strictly enforced because without it, you dont know when something was prescribed. Anybody can say whatever date they want if they get popped. Falsifying medical records happens all the time in the US

I mean... I'm no expert here, but this seems like it wouldn't be super easy to falsify. I could see a compliant doc giving a 'back dated' diagnosis. That wouldn't be too hard. But providing a valid, and filled, back dated prescription wouldn't be quite so easy I don't think. 

I don't think a pharmacy is going to willy-nilly alter their records to show that they handed out a controlled substance to a customer, and even if they did they financial records wouldn't match. These are things that leave an electronic paper-trail that's outside of their ability to easily manipulate. That means they could be investigated, found to be lying... and lying about dispensing a schedule II drug. I can't imagine that that is not without significant criminal penalty risk. 

Now if it's a case of Jamo providing a doctor's diagnosis but he got the Adderall outside "normal" channels then I think I'd agree that this is almost certainly a falsified doc record and he wasn't legally taking the drugs.

[ewsieg]

I doubt...or maybe hope, this isn't a case of taking adderall illegally. If the report is correct and he was taking it as a prescribed medication and not following the correct procedures, I guess that's the best case scenario, but that pisses me off that he's not aware and the Lions aren't making sure players are aware.  Williams agents response is the one that scares me the most.  He basically states no one knows why he tested positive and they'll simply move forward.  Oh hell no.  You better find out why and well before his next drug test.

[Jason_R]

He took an adderall at the team hotel. 

[NYLion]

Good news that the suspension is kicking in right away. One of the game missed being the Titans and getting him back for Houston is a break for the Lions, relatively speaking.

[RandyMarsh]

3 hours ago, Jason_R said:

He took an adderall at the team hotel. 

To quote Michael Scott, "Double Jeopardy we are fine."

[RedRamage]

On 10/25/2024 at 7:19 AM, Jason_R said:

He took an adderall at the team hotel. 

But was it on hotel property or on the sidewalk outside... which is technically public property, so...

[RedRamage]

On 10/24/2024 at 4:36 PM, ewsieg said:

Williams agents ... basically states no one knows why he tested positive and they'll simply move forward.  Oh hell no.  You better find out why and well before his next drug test.

If I had to guess I'd say this is "coach speak" for: We know damn well why he tested positive, but we're not going to publicly admit that and you beat your ass that we're letting him know how stupid he is so moving forward it better not "mysteriously" happen again.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

JESUS ****ING CHRIST with this guy.

[MichiganCardinal]

The maturity just ain’t where it needs to be on this team.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said:

The maturity just ain’t where it needs to be on this team.

They talk all the time about cultural and locker room fits on this team. I just don't think Jamo is it. If this gun charge is legit he could be in legal trouble, let alone trouble with the league.

[MichiganCardinal]

All I needed to see:

“I play for the Lions, bro. I’m Jameson Williams,” he said at one point.

Minutes later, he said: “Bro, I play for the Detroit Lions.”

Minutes after that, he said once more: “Bro, I play for the Lions!”

[TP_Fan]

Jaymo can’t stop ****ing up.  News 7 probably has better things to be doing though.  

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Jaymo can’t stop ****ing up.  News 7 probably has better things to be doing though.  

Legally the situation does turn on a technical interpretation of the CPL and clearly the cops on the scene simply followed chain of command. Still stupid though - why didn't he get his own permit? His frickin' brother obviously could have shown him how.

[MichiganCardinal]

4 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Jaymo can’t stop ****ing up.  News 7 probably has better things to be doing though.  

I’m not going to blame the news for reporting when an immature player makes a boneheaded decision, admits it to the police, and then the police try to cover it up for him.

Looking at the totality of the circumstances, he’s probably not going to get punished that severely, by either the law (if he can be charged at all at this point, I’m not a lawyer but their only evidence was handed right back to him) or the league (for all his troubles this is his first violation of the personal conduct policy).

The Cowboys’ Sam Williams was recently suspended three games for two arrests, one which resulted in a charge of unlawfully carrying a weapon during a traffic stop. I would guess he’s eventually looking at something similar, though he might be able to delay it to next season. Him name dropping the Lions like that isn’t going to do him any favors with the league.