Week Thirteen: Chicago Bears (4-7) @ Detroit Lions (10-1)

[Motown Bombers]

24 minutes ago, sagnam said:

I know you are loyal as a USC fan, but he admitted to changing the play. When everyone else is on the same page you have to lay blame on the one guy who goes off script. It’s ok that Caleb doesn’t understand how to manage the clock. That’s not his job. His job is to get the snap off around 10-15 seconds and pick up 10 yards. That’s it. The coaches will handle the timeouts. He took the game into his own hands and made multiple stupid decisions. His football skills might have gotten them into position to compete, but clearly not his ability to strategize. If he had stuck to what he’s good at they might have taken the game to OT.

 

Either way Eferblus was toast for his entire body of work. Good luck to the next head coach who has to deal with this guy.

Eberflus needs to call a timeout and go to plan B. It's insane a coach lets the clock expire down 3 without using a timeout or attempting a FG. 

[sagnam]

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Eberflus needs to call a timeout and go to plan B. It's insane a coach lets the clock expire down 3 without using a timeout or attempting a FG. 

They were outside his FG kickers’s range, or at the outer edge at best apparently. How was Eferblus going to know Williams was about to screw him over? Even at 6 seconds there was still plenty of time for 10 yards and a timeout. So the entire time the clock was running Eferblus was screwed and his best option was stick to the plan. If he calls timeout anywhere in the area of 10 seconds then they only get a guaranteed shot at the FG if they kick on 3rd down. If they try to run a short out in 3rd we already know that Williams will just audible to a bomb and you get the exact same ending.

I still can’t believe Williams dropped back and held the ball. Honestly, Efeblus is better off in the long run getting out of Chicago.

In hindsight the timeout at 30 seconds was was his only alternative. No matter what the Bears did on 3rd down not much clock would roll as the Lions would absolutely call a timeout. That means the Lions would have 20-ish seconds to get into FG range for the win in the event the Bears make their FG.
 

The Bears coaching staff had a solid plan to get the clock bled out AND in better field goal position. There is exactly one person who **** that bed. Why do so many people give Williams a pass?

[Motown Bombers]

9 minutes ago, sagnam said:

They were outside his FG kickers’s range, or at the outer edge at best apparently. How was Eferblus going to know Williams was about to screw him over? Even at 6 seconds there was still plenty of time for 10 yards and a timeout. So the entire time the clock was running Eferblus was screwed and his best option was stick to the plan. If he calls timeout anywhere in the area of 10 seconds then they only get a guaranteed shot at the FG if they kick on 3rd down. If they try to run a short out in 3rd we already know that Williams will just audible to a bomb and you get the exact same ending.

I still can’t believe Williams dropped back and held the ball. Honestly, Efeblus is better off in the long run getting out of Chicago.

In hindsight the timeout at 30 seconds was was his only alternative. No matter what the Bears did on 3rd down not much clock would roll as the Lions would absolutely call a timeout. That means the Lions would have 20-ish seconds to get into FG range for the win in the event the Bears make their FG.
 

The Bears coaching staff had a solid plan to get the clock bled out AND in better field goal position. There is exactly one person who **** that bed. Why do so many people give Williams a pass?

Eberflus said the plan was to snap the ball at 18 seconds. When it isn't snapped at 12 seconds, you call timeout. You go to plan B, which could either be a quick hitter to the sideline or a shot to the endzone. If both fail, you have a second chance for either a long field goal or another shot to the end zone. There is no way a coach should just stand and watch his team run out the clock. 

[sagnam]

 

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Eberflus said the plan was to snap the ball at 18 seconds. When it isn't snapped at 12 seconds, you call timeout. You go to plan B, which could either be a quick hitter to the sideline or a shot to the endzone. If both fail, you have a second chance for either a long field goal or another shot to the end zone. There is no way a coach should just stand and watch his team run out the clock. 

That’s an option. I believe that Caleb getting sacked, throwing the ball over the middle, or running around for 12 seconds and screwing them over Is no less likely than him taking 30 seconds for one play.

[MichiganCardinal]

Sheesh.

 

 

[Hongbit]

2 hours ago, sagnam said:

I It’s ok that Caleb doesn’t understand how to manage the clock. That’s not his job. His job is to get the snap off around 10-15 seconds and pick up 10 yards. That’s it. The coaches will handle the timeouts. He took the game into his own hands and made multiple stupid decisions. His football skills might have gotten them into position to compete, but clearly not his ability to strategize. If he had stuck to what he’s good at they might have taken the game to OT.

Caleb was going too slow and shouldn’t have changed the play.   The end game is all on the head coach.  He needed to jump in and call timeout with 16 seconds.  Controlling timeouts is 100% his job.   Huddle up and call a 10 yard out to the sideline and bring out the kicker to tie.   Instead, they never got a clean play off and went to the locker room with their last timeout.    

[Shinzaki]

Williams had no business changing the play and wasting so much clock.  That's on him. But... He's like a six year old with a can of gas and a lighter.  Once you see him flicking that Bic you need to put a stop to it. You just can't let him burn the house down.  Eberflus should have called time once it became apparent he was changing the play

[TP_Fan]

2 hours ago, sagnam said:

They were outside his FG kickers’s range, or at the outer edge at best apparently. How was Eferblus going to know Williams was about to screw him over? Even at 6 seconds there was still plenty of time for 10 yards and a timeout. So the entire time the clock was running Eferblus was screwed and his best option was stick to the plan. If he calls timeout anywhere in the area of 10 seconds then they only get a guaranteed shot at the FG if they kick on 3rd down. If they try to run a short out in 3rd we already know that Williams will just audible to a bomb and you get the exact same ending.

I still can’t believe Williams dropped back and held the ball. Honestly, Efeblus is better off in the long run getting out of Chicago.

In hindsight the timeout at 30 seconds was was his only alternative. No matter what the Bears did on 3rd down not much clock would roll as the Lions would absolutely call a timeout. That means the Lions would have 20-ish seconds to get into FG range for the win in the event the Bears make their FG.
 

The Bears coaching staff had a solid plan to get the clock bled out AND in better field goal position. There is exactly one person who **** that bed. Why do so many people give Williams a pass?

Lol his best option was to stick with the plan?  What.  No. Once he saw people weren’t lined up by 20 secs you call the timeout.  That was not on Caleb Williams.  He is a rookie, he didn’t do any audible until 15 secs.  It never should have gotten below 20. Not to mention they should have used the timeout at 32 secs. It was 100% on the coach. 

[TP_Fan]

14 minutes ago, Shinzaki said:

Williams had no business changing the play and wasting so much clock.  That's on him. But... He's like a six year old with a can of gas and a lighter.  Once you see him flicking that Bic you need to put a stop to it. You just can't let him burn the house down.  Eberflus should have called time once it became apparent he was changing the play

But again, he changed the play well after the point where a timeout should have been called.  He didn’t change the play until 15 secs left.  Coach set the kid up to fail.  He is a rookie, of course he doesn’t understand all the nuances. Even at 10 secs you could have called a timeout!  

[TP_Fan]

1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Sheesh.

 

 

The refs weren’t very good yesterday.  This call. The 4th down PI, it’s inexcusable.

The game is fast and these guys make mistakes because they see things incorrectly in real time. The nfl needs to save itself. Have a ref upstairs just phone down and say nope, wrong, play on, or penalty. Leaving so much to guys on the field is antiquated.  

[Motown Bombers]

On that personal foul by Williams, you can see Stevenson stuck out his leg and tripped Williams. That's why he flipped the ball at him.

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[Motor City Sonics]

RYAN POLES:     Matt,  we've decided to l

MATT EBERFLUS:  TIME OUT!

RP:  What?

ME:  TIME OUT,  I HAVE ONE LEFT

RP:  What are you talking about

ME:  I kept it, I kept it for this.  I am using it now.  You can't fire me.   I call TIME OUT!

RP:  That's not how it works

ME:  It is.  I saw it on You Tube, I get to use it now. 

RP (Picking up the phone):  Hi, Security,  We have a situation.  

[Jason_R]

2 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Sheesh.

 

 

Pathetic. 

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Sheesh.

 

 

this and the PI on totally William's uncatchable desperation heave that was 20yds from the nearest receiver late in the 4th were making it look like a fix was in.

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, Shinzaki said:

Williams had no business changing the play and wasting so much clock.  That's on him. But... He's like a six year old with a can of gas and a lighter.  Once you see him flicking that Bic you need to put a stop to it. You just can't let him burn the house down.  Eberflus should have called time once it became apparent he was changing the play

DING!    As soon as it got to about 16 seconds, TIME OUT.   Then you throw it for 15-20 yards, call your last time out and try to kick a field goal.   

[TP_Fan]

21 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

DING!    As soon as it got to about 16 seconds, TIME OUT.   Then you throw it for 15-20 yards, call your last time out and try to kick a field goal.   

They only had one timeout.  

[Motown Bombers]

23 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

DING!    As soon as it got to about 16 seconds, TIME OUT.   Then you throw it for 15-20 yards, call your last time out and try to kick a field goal.   

The Bears only had one timeout. They would need to run something out of bounds. 

[Motor City Sonics]

24 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The Bears only had one timeout. They would need to run something out of bounds. 

No, they had one leftover from the previous game in their Time Out bank

[Motown Bombers]

Dan Miller call on the final play. 

 

[buddha]

5 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I am on a roll !

blind squirrels rejoice!  🙂

[buddha]

8 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

If you are going to make wholesale changes, now would be the time, like Sheila did in 2020. You give yourself a headstart on your GM search and putting together candidates.

yeah, but this is the bears.  they made eberflus do a press conference this morning at 9 am and then fired him at 10.  the mccaskeys make the fords look like the rooneys.

the time to do a complete house cleaning was last year.  they had the #1 pick with a great qb class available.  get rid of eberflus and his whole staff and let harbaugh or pete carroll or someone else come in and run the show.  if harbaugh didnt want poles as gm, then you fire him too.

but the mccaskeys dont run a business designed to win, they run a franchise more concerned with loyalty and romanticism about the past.  theyre idiots born with a silver football in their mouths.  they are sitting on the most valuable franchise other than dallas and they let it sit and collect dust.

i hate the bears because theyre the bears.  but i doubly hate them because they are SO STUPID.  its offensive.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, TP_Fan said:

They only had one timeout.  

I guess that was the kind of self-destruct good teams take from bad teams. I was struct that they apparently had zero confidence they could get a FG off after an ordinary play that stopped the clock, which is something you would think any NFL team should be able to do no sweat.  🤷‍♀️

[sagnam]

2 hours ago, TP_Fan said:

Lol his best option was to stick with the plan?  What.  No. Once he saw people weren’t lined up by 20 secs you call the timeout.  That was not on Caleb Williams.  He is a rookie, he didn’t do any audible until 15 secs.  It never should have gotten below 20. Not to mention they should have used the timeout at 32 secs. It was 100% on the coach. 

Calling the timeout at 32 seconds means Detroit will call a timeout after the 3rd down play if it’s not incomplete and have 20+ seconds to get into field goal range. That’s terrible clock management. Calling that timeout at 20 seconds is actually a viable option, but if you let it run to 20 your plan is clearly to run it down and use the timeout after 3rd down. There was no warning sign at 20 seconds that Caleb was going rogue.  I’m so confused why we can use hindsight to bury the coach. If Caleb and looked at him and said F your play then yeah, Eberflus should have called timeout. That’s not what happened.

[sagnam]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

DING!    As soon as it got to about 16 seconds, TIME OUT.   Then you throw it for 15-20 yards, call your last time out and try to kick a field goal.   

As said, if they had 2 timeouts, sure. They didn’t.

[Motor City Sonics]

36 minutes ago, buddha said:

blind squirrels rejoice!  🙂

They would have blown him out yesterday if it wasn't Thanksgiving.