2025 NBA Trade Deadline

[buddha]

5 hours ago, Deleterious said:

You really like Fox huh?

meh, i dont know.  just offering up ideas.

its hard to tell how much junk coming out of sacramento is actually him being a lazy neer do well or if its just mike brown's people doing damage control by blaming fox for losses.

[Hongbit]

14 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Got his coach fired now he's bouncing.  

 

Fox didn’t get the coach fired.

It’s Sacramento. There’s only one person that makes every major decision and whatever is in Vivek’s head that day is what happens.  

[Deleterious]

4 hours ago, buddha said:

meh, i dont know.  just offering up ideas.

its hard to tell how much junk coming out of sacramento is actually him being a lazy neer do well or if its just mike brown's people doing damage control by blaming fox for losses.

Watching him defend Ivey on that last shot the other night makes me think Brown had some legitimate complaints.  

 

[Deleterious]

 

[Betrayer]

9 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

Curious to see how this plays out. Injured rental who going to want a huge new contract in the offseason.

[Deleterious]

Probably fair value for his talent but the injuries worry me a lot.

 

[Deleterious]

Heat Suspend Jimmy Butler For Seven Games, Will Listen To Trade Offers

[Adullin]

4 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Heat Suspend Jimmy Butler For Seven Games, Will Listen To Trade Offers

You beat me to it. 

[Deleterious]

The Butler stuff is interesting.  If they don't trade him he has a $52M player option he can exercise this summer.  So by not trading him they risk the chance he picks up the option and comes back next year.

[buddha]

espn had a bunch of proposed trades where the pistons were the "4th team" that got a couple seconds or a nothing player to help facilitate the deal.

[Deleterious]

But it might get his money back if he wins the grievance.  I heard he was losing just over $500K per game.

 

[Deleterious]

Neither do 28 other team.

 

[Deleterious]

Something to consider if we do end up as the third team in the Butler trade.  The Pistons absolutely can not take on salary if they want to sign Beasley.

If they use THJ in a trade to match salary, anything coming back has to be an expiring contract just like THJ.  The Pistons are counting on the $16M THJ provides in cap space to sign Beasley.  If they bring back a guy who is not expiring, it eats up that cap space and signing Beasley gets a lot harder.

 

[Deleterious]

Tell me you're a ****ing idiot without telling me you're a ****ing idiot.

 

[Betrayer]

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Tell me you're a ****ing idiot without telling me you're a ****ing idiot.

 

Buckle up for trade season. This is the sports news world these days.

Pistons have cap space so they "could be a potential suitor" for every made-up trade that will get these guys some clicks. And then the next "reporter" writes a story saying "there are rumors that the Pistons could be interested in [player previously named]", and so on.

[Deleterious]

47 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

Buckle up for trade season. This is the sports news world these days.

Pistons have cap space so they "could be a potential suitor" for every made-up trade that will get these guys some clicks. And then the next "reporter" writes a story saying "there are rumors that the Pistons could be interested in [player previously named]", and so on.

Good point.  

Its not CJ is terrible if we are strictly speaking on his talent.  Probably even a good fit with Ivey out.  But he has a year more on his deal than THJ so it messes up cap space.  Then the fact he rarely plays 70 games a year anymore.  

[Betrayer]

19 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Good point.  

Its not CJ is terrible if we are strictly speaking on his talent.  Probably even a good fit with Ivey out.  But he has a year more on his deal than THJ so it messes up cap space.  Then the fact he rarely plays 70 games a year anymore.  

Yea, I get it from a second-scorer perspective, but it would be a short sighted move. Also, I'll restate my opinion that I want to see Cade as the smallest guy in this starting lineup.

[NYLion]

I wouldn't hate a McCollum trade if it was an expiring, he's a sizeable THJ upgrade, but with the extra year at that number, no way in hell should it be entertained. Regardless, it seems like speculation at best.

Edited January 9 by NYLion

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

The amount of games Ingram has played each season.  

[NYLion]

Chill Trajan, Chill. A .500 team shouldn't make him stray away from the long term plan. The Pistons still need to build an asset base to make a real impactful move in the next year or two, that time is not now and Ingram certainly isn't that guy.

[Betrayer]

On 1/10/2025 at 1:23 PM, Deleterious said:

 

Please don't turn this into the Atlanta Hawks who went all-in too soon after Trey broke out and will seemingly be stuck in the 7-10 spot forever.

[buddha]

3 hours ago, Betrayer said:

Please don't turn this into the Atlanta Hawks who went all-in too soon after Trey broke out and will seemingly be stuck in the 7-10 spot forever.

tom gores demanded that his team build around andre drummond and trade picks (that became shai) so he could get blake griffin's last gasp in order to do it.

if we DONT make a stupid "8th seed or bust" trade i'll be shocked.  

the thing is, the bottom of the east is tanking HARD.  and some of the good teams are really beat up.  they dont have to make a trade to contend for the play in.  they will almost assuredly make it unless cade goes down.

dont ruin it by trading for someone's problem.  use that cap space wisely.  accumulate assets and draft well.  that will get you where you want to be.

[Deleterious]

I think those days are past, or about to be.  They are out of cap space starting this summer.  They can no longer bring players in for picks.  Also, nobody gives up 1st round picks for cap space anymore.  On top of that, they have a decent shot at giving up their pick this year.  So why wait for picks?  That pick is 3+ years away from helping this team.  Cade isn't waiting on that.