2025 NBA Trade Deadline

[Deleterious]

I forgot he has a no trade clause.  

[NYLion]

I wonder if one of those 1sts Phoenix traded for is destined for a team like the Pistons to take on a salary to pave way for a Butler trade. I would say Monte Morris to give the Pistons an extra ballhandler but offloading his salary does nothing for them. Can't be Beal for many reasons so, I don't know.

Edited January 22 by NYLion

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8 minutes ago, NYLion said:

I wonder if one of those 1sts Phoenix traded for is destined for a team like the Pistons to take on a salary to pave way for a Butler trade. I would say Monte Morris to give the Pistons an extra ballhandler but offloading his salary does nothing for them. Can't be Beal for many reasons so, I don't know.

I would guess that is exactly why they made that trade.  

I think any Butler trade involving Detroit will need a 4th team.  Butler and Beal are close enough to trade by themselves.  But Miami doesn't want Beal, so you need the third team.  Problem is, Beal has a no trade clause and he isn't waiving it to come to Detroit.  Bring in the 4th team, say Milwaukee.  Phoenix can't take the Bucks players because they are taking Butler.  Miami doesn't want a bunch of extra salary because they are looking for the quick rebuild around  Herro and Bam.  You have to find somewhere for the Bucks salary to land.  Detroit does it for a 1st rounder.  Or some other team.

[NYLion]

4 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

I would guess that is exactly why they made that trade.  

I think any Butler trade involving Detroit will need a 4th team.  Butler and Beal are close enough to trade by themselves.  But Miami doesn't want Beal, so you need the third team.  Problem is, Beal has a no trade clause and he isn't waiving it to come to Detroit.  Bring in the 4th team, say Milwaukee.  Phoenix can't take the Bucks players because they are taking Butler.  Miami doesn't want a bunch of extra salary because they are looking for the quick rebuild around  Herro and Bam.  You have to find somewhere for the Bucks salary to land.  Detroit does it for a 1st rounder.  Or some other team.

Such a complicated trade to pull off but the Pistons are in prime position to be the facilitator. I hope Langdon is more in asset accumulation mode than win now mode because the team is still too incomplete and the win now window doesn't really open up until next year plus they'll likely have control of all their picks as well so if they add a 1st now, they'll have some real assets to work with to use for a bigger trade when they're in the real win now window.

[Deleterious]

Ironically.  They could have landed an extra 1st round pick this year if they had kept Grimes.  

[Deleterious]

No clue why Miami would take Middleton.  But that would be ideal for Detroit or any fourth team involved.  It would mean a lot less salary they would have to take on.

 

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Trade deadline is two weeks from today at 3pm

[buddha]

if youre of the mind the pistons need another ball handler, would you trade a couple second rounders for lonzo ball?

$20mish expiring deal.

[1984Echoes]

If we had the picks I would target Cam Johnson & DeAngelo Russell.

I think that would start with THJ, Stew, and Ron Holland... plus picks... and ???

but I'm just guessing...

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3 hours ago, buddha said:

if youre of the mind the pistons need another ball handler, would you trade a couple second rounders for lonzo ball?

$20mish expiring deal.

Costs little with no commitment so I don't mind it.  Not crazy about taking time from Sasser though.  I want to use these last 30 games + the playoffs to get a better read on him and decide if we need to move on or not.  

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2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

If we had the picks I would target Cam Johnson & DeAngelo Russell.

I think that would start with THJ, Stew, and Ron Holland... plus picks... and ???

but I'm just guessing...

I wouldn't trade Stew and Holland straight up for those two.  No way am I tossing in picks as well.  

[buddha]

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Costs little with no commitment so I don't mind it.  Not crazy about taking time from Sasser though.  I want to use these last 30 games + the playoffs to get a better read on him and decide if we need to move on or not.  

he can still get after it on defense.  he can still run the point.  offense is...uh....still an issue but he's not a complete black hole and he does like to pass.  no future committment.  he's been healthy this year for the most part.  

and he wont cost much.

start ausar, ron, lonzo, cade, and stewart.  win every game 68-66.

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The Athletic reported Beal would not waive his no trade clause for Chicago. 

Also saw a report that Detroit is over is the teams inquiring about Ball in Chicago.

[buddha]

i worry about lonzo's shot, but he handle the ball, is a willing passer, and plays defense.

and he's a free agent after this year.

lavine would be the play if they were "going for it" this year, but lonzo would be a nice play that would allow them to build on ivey next year (which lavine would not) and would help them with a lot of their deficiencies this year (secondary ball handler for cade, willing passer) and build on their young players' strengths and potential identity (defense).

i like lonzo to the pistons for some second round fodder.

[buddha]

lonzo with 16 tonight so far.  

4/7 from 3 as chicago is about to close out denver.

[Deleterious]

Gives Detroit Bird rights on Ball too.  I imagine he will sign a 1 year prove it deal sort of like Beasley this year.  Gives them 25 games to kick the tires on him too, see if he is worth bringing back.  

It makes a lot of sense.  

[RatkoVarda]

Sam is a MTS lurker?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6082331/2025/01/28/nba-trade-rumors-pistons-bulls-lonzo-ball/?source=emp_shared_article

• Chicago Bulls trade Lonzo Ball to Detroit Pistons for Tim Hardaway Jr. and two second-round picks

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[Betrayer]

Some of the Detroit sports heads have been mentioning Coby White, but much like Lavine I'm not sure how you bring him unless you're moving Ivey. Lonzo makes way more sense since he can play next to either Cade or Ivey, defend, handle the ball, and space the floor.

Then again, Langdon seemed to value availability in his offseason moves and that's one ability that Lonzo has yet to prove.

[buddha]

coby white has been hurt a lot lately.  he's actually been less available than lonzo of late.

[Deleterious]

Hollinger last night:

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If you’re looking for ways for De’Aaron Fox to end up in San Antonio, keep an eye on Detroit.

The Pistons are set up both roster-wise and cap-wise to take on a likely key element in any Fox deal, the $18 million contract of Harrison Barnes. Remember, because Sacramento traded Barnes to the Spurs this past offseason, he cannot be reacquiring by the Kings directly in a trade with the Spurs until after the season.

However, that restriction goes away if Barnes goes to a third team … such as the Pistons. Detroit is the league’s only team with practical cap space, operating $14 million below the cap, but have had disappointing results at the 4 from free-agent acquisition Tobias Harris.

Barnes makes $18 million this season and $19 million in 2025-26, but the Pistons can fit him by sending out at least $4 million in fungible salary to the Kings or Spurs in a three-way trade. By sending a reserve such as Simone Fontecchio to San Antonio ($7.7 million this year, $8.3 million in 2025-26), Detroit could take the Barnes contact into its cap room.

 

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