Sports_Freak Posted January 6 Posted January 6 The kind of players Holmes drafts and Campbell loves. Grit; Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 25 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Win the Super Bowl now. I'm not predicting a down 2025 season for the Lions, as they'll be healthier and Holmes will draft pieces. But with the pending loss of both co-ordinators and a tough schedule, there's no time like the present to win two home playoff games and get to the Super Bowl. Like Campbell told the team after the NFCCG last year, "this may have been our only shot. Do I think that? No. Do I believe that? No -- however, I know how hard it is to get here. I'm well aware. And it's going to be twice as hard to get back to this point next year, than it was this year. That's the reality." Despite the audience, that wasn't a message to last year's team, it was a message to this year's team. You can't squander an opportunity and expect to just run it back the next year. That's what they have right now, a massive opportunity. Win two home games and you're going to the Super Bowl. Don't squander it. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 6 Posted January 6 58 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I'm not sure if this is accurate or not but it looks like a tough road schedule. 7 outdoor games; I feel bad for all of these teams especially the ones that have to come here. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 6 Posted January 6 18 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I feel bad for all of these teams especially the ones that have to come here. Instead of fans of teams saying they "get" to play the Lions, they're saying they "have" to play the Lions. 😄 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 6 Posted January 6 44 minutes ago, NYLion said: A lot of that was due to the pressure the Lions put in his face early and often. They never let him get comfortable and he got rattled seeing ghosts and missed some easy throws as a result. Yup...he choked. 😄 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 6 Posted January 6 51 minutes ago, NYLion said: A lot of that was due to the pressure the Lions put in his face early and often. They never let him get comfortable and he got rattled seeing ghosts and missed some easy throws as a result. He looked every bit like the Goff we were told we were getting from the Rams. Darnold probably cost himself millions. If he lays another egg against the Rams, he may be looking at a smaller Geno Smith type deal. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Collingsworth was really pushing Goff's physical courage to keep standing in and making the throw he knew would be there knowing he was going to be hit. It's maybe the most 'intangible' of all a QB's intangibles. Every great QB has to have it. The ability to block that hit out of your mind and complete your process is a heck of a talent. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted January 6 Posted January 6 41 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: He looked every bit like the Goff we were told we were getting from the Rams. Darnold probably cost himself millions. If he lays another egg against the Rams, he may be looking at a smaller Geno Smith type deal. Teams will look at his full body of work, not one or two weeks. Quarterbacks are in short supply, at least good ones. Put him on a good team and he's a winner. Jets should sign him....lol Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Teams will look at his full body of work, not one or two weeks. Quarterbacks are in short supply, at least good ones. Put him on a good team and he's a winner. Jets should sign him....lol I think teams were waiting for the "real" Darnold to show up, and we may have just seen it. It would be hard for me to commit to Darnold for a top of the market contract. I would franchise him, and if he repeats what he did this year, then I would give him a big contract. His full body of work includes all the years before Minnesota. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I think teams were waiting for the "real" Darnold to show up, and we may have just seen it. It would be hard for me to commit to Darnold for a top of the market contract. I would franchise him, and if he repeats what he did this year, then I would give him a big contract. His full body of work includes all the years before Minnesota. In Darnolds defense, Collingsworth made an excellent point that O'Connell/Phillips weren't doing Darnold any favors by continuing to call a lot of long slow developing routes when his O-Line couldn't give him time to throw them. I would guess they were so focused on the chance of beating Detroit's depleted secondary deep that they refused to adjust the game plan. Edited January 6 by gehringer_2 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: In Darnolds defense, Collingsworth made an excellent point that O'Connell/Phillips weren't doing Darnold any favors by continuing to call a lot of long slow developing routes when his O-Line couldn't give him time to throw them. It's really funny since the Vikings have excellent check down options in Jones and Hockenson. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Anzalone available to go against Hockenson was definitely a plus. Lions have had pretty terrible injury luck but they caught a break on the timing there. Quote
KnoxP Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Anzalone available to go against Hockenson was definitely a plus. Lions have had pretty terrible injury luck but they caught a break on the timing there. And it demonstrated the rather large drop off from him to Nowaske. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 6 Posted January 6 At least for the Vikings, $2 million probably buys a lot more tickets at Sofi. Quote
chasfh Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: Like Campbell told the team after the NFCCG last year, "this may have been our only shot. Do I think that? No. Do I believe that? No -- however, I know how hard it is to get here. I'm well aware. And it's going to be twice as hard to get back to this point next year, than it was this year. That's the reality." Despite the audience, that wasn't a message to last year's team, it was a message to this year's team. You can't squander an opportunity and expect to just run it back the next year. That's what they have right now, a massive opportunity. Win two home games and you're going to the Super Bowl. Don't squander it. Would you risk Hutch on the Super Bowl? Remember, he will not have played since early mid-October, nearly four months since live game action, so he may be less than sharp. And, of course, his newly-healed bones would be more at risk in February than starting next July. And we'll have Anzalone and Montgomery and probably Barnes back. So, stronger than we are now. If you're HC, do you risk Hutch coming back green for the Super Bowl? Bpnus question: if you're a Lions' fan, do you believe the chances Gamblin' Dan starts Hutch in the Super Bowl is any less than 100%? Quote
chasfh Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: I feel bad for all of these teams especially the ones that have to come here. I don't feel bad for any other team in the NFL, or for their fans, and I won't for a long time yet. SOL is too near in the rear-view for me to be so magnanimous. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Would you risk Hutch on the Super Bowl? Remember, he will not have played since early mid-October, nearly four months since live game action, so he may be less than sharp. And, of course, his newly-healed bones would be more at risk in February than starting next July. And we'll have Anzalone and Montgomery and probably Barnes back. So, stronger than we are now. If you're HC, do you risk Hutch coming back green for the Super Bowl? Bpnus question: if you're a Lions' fan, do you believe the chances Gamblin' Dan starts Hutch in the Super Bowl is any less than 100%? Campbell is usually conservative in bringing players back from injury. If Hutchinson's leg is fully healed, I think he plays. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just now, Motown Bombers said: Campbell is usually conservative in bringing players back from injury. If Hutchinson's leg is fully healed, I think he plays. "Fully" sounds a bit interpretative, which has a tinge of subjectivity to it. Or maybe I'm wrong there. I want him in there if he's 100%. Will he be 100% healed in a smidge less than four months? Do these kind of severe fractures heal that quickly for guys in their mid-20s? Especially two in the same general area? Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 1 minute ago, chasfh said: Would you risk Hutch on the Super Bowl? Remember, he will not have played since early mid-October, nearly four months since live game action, so he may be less than sharp. And, of course, his newly-healed bones would be more at risk in February than starting next July. And we'll have Anzalone and Montgomery and probably Barnes back. So, stronger than we are now. If you're HC, do you risk Hutch coming back green for the Super Bowl? Bpnus question: if you're a Lions' fan, do you believe the chances Gamblin' Dan starts Hutch in the Super Bowl is any less than 100%? I don't think Hutch gives him the option. He's going out there, Dan Campbell's only choice is whether he wants to get a penalty for too many men by sending out 11 other guys too. I actually think there is a non-zero chance he is activated for the NFC Championship Game, assuming he's medically cleared. I would rather Hutch be activated for that game on a 25-50% snap count, get his legs under him, and have the potential for him to be 100% in the Super Bowl, than have a depth player like Chris Smith active (who recorded 8 snaps last night). 1 Quote
lordstanley Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: a depth player like Chris Smith active (who recorded 8 snaps last night). Incidentally, where's a good place to find snaps per player, other than looking up their profile one by one? The box scores I see typically just list tackles and stuff which often excludes some guys. Edit: I've since found it on some fantasy sites. And here for example: https://www.mlive.com/lions/2025/01/snap-counts-pff-grades-a-closer-look-at-the-lions-resurgent-defensive-performance.html Edited January 6 by lordstanley Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 1 minute ago, lordstanley said: Incidentally, where's a good place to find snaps per player, other than looking up their profile one by one? The box scores I see typically just list tackles and stuff which often excludes some guys. I use Justin Rogers. He posts it pretty quickly after the game. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, lordstanley said: Incidentally, where's a good place to find snaps per player, other than looking up their profile one by one? The box scores I see typically just list tackles and stuff which often excludes some guys. Football-reference. If you scroll down their box score, they have a section specifically for snap counts. Minnesota Vikings at Detroit Lions - January 5th, 2025 | Pro-Football-Reference.com 1 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 6 Posted January 6 What is the record since the 1-6 start? 35-9 ? Quote
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