oblong Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM 'most vote' metrics don't matter because in terms of a trend line the voting goes up. roughly 20-30M more people voted in 2016-2024 than voted in 2008-2012 so naturally the individual candidates will get more votes than their predecessor. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM On 4/1/2025 at 4:19 PM, oblong said: 'most vote' metrics don't matter because in terms of a trend line the voting goes up. roughly 20-30M more people voted in 2016-2024 than voted in 2008-2012 so naturally the individual candidates will get more votes than their predecessor. Expand it sort of makes sense - it the same fear Socrates had 2500 years ago: as voter participation grows, the electorate gets dumber. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted Tuesday at 05:51 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:51 PM On 4/1/2025 at 5:14 PM, gehringer_2 said: it sort of makes sense - it the same fear Socrates had 2500 years ago: as voter participation grows, the electorate gets dumber. Expand Also one of the reasons Madison and Hamilton (and company) originally set up the Electoral College. They didn't want the general voting public to have a direct say in the election of the Chief Executive fearing the choices the "rabble" would make. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Tuesday at 06:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:08 PM On 4/1/2025 at 5:51 PM, CMRivdogs said: Also one of the reasons Madison and Hamilton (and company) originally set up the Electoral College. They didn't want the general voting public to have a direct say in the election of the Chief Executive fearing the choices the "rabble" would make. Expand Well, Plato's Republic was probably required reading for any educated man of their day. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM On 4/1/2025 at 6:08 PM, gehringer_2 said: Well, Plato's Republic was probably required reading for any educated man of their day. Expand As well as Rousseau, Locke and Hobbes. I doubt anyone in the current administration has any clue about these individuals 1 Quote
romad1 Posted Tuesday at 06:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:26 PM This is the line... Andrew Whitehead: ""If America hasn't broken your heart, you haven't loved her enough." Corey Booker, just now." — Bluesky Quote
CMRivdogs Posted Tuesday at 08:44 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:44 PM Quoting one of the late Gilda Radner's SNL characters. Oh Never mind Quote
Edman85 Posted Tuesday at 10:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:26 PM On 4/1/2025 at 2:30 PM, oblong said: I will get physically angry if I start seeing people discuss turnout and all the other numbers ahead of the vote counting for these elections tonight... yeah we saw that in November that it doesn't mean jack ****. Just wait until the votes are counted. No photos of "long lines" and all that crap. Expand The only thing I will say is the fact that I saw a TV ad for FL-6 the same day Stefanik's nomination was pulled tells me it's not going to be a 30 point race... Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM On 4/1/2025 at 10:26 PM, Edman85 said: The only thing I will say is the fact that I saw a TV ad for FL-6 the same day Stefanik's nomination was pulled tells me it's not going to be a 30 point race... Expand Let me guess, if it was a pro Republican ad, it was something about transgenders? Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted Tuesday at 11:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:18 PM (edited) Cory Booker is about 5 minutes away from breaking Segregationist Senator Strom Thurmond's record for the longest filibuster in Senate history. It's great to see a black man break that bigots record. Edited Tuesday at 11:19 PM by Mr.TaterSalad 2 Quote
smr-nj Posted Tuesday at 11:24 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:24 PM That was an emotional last hour by Booker. The record by that klansman is broken. I am so proud of my senator. 3 Quote
Edman85 Posted Tuesday at 11:35 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:35 PM Story I may have told here once, but in AP Government in HS, a classmate and I fillibustered class for a day and a half, and the teacher allowed it until 60% of the class voted against it. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Tuesday at 11:42 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:42 PM Looks like the Republican will win the Florida district, but a massive over performance by the Democrat. Quote
oblong Posted Tuesday at 11:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:55 PM Was this a filibuster by Booker or just a speech? I thought the latter. Quote
Edman85 Posted Wednesday at 12:38 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:38 AM On 4/1/2025 at 11:55 PM, oblong said: Was this a filibuster by Booker or just a speech? I thought the latter. Expand A speech can be a filibuster. Quote
Tigermojo Posted Wednesday at 12:49 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:49 AM I can't imagine the preparation it must take to do something like that. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted Wednesday at 12:50 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:50 AM You have to be in good physical shape to do that which means Trump could never do it. Quote
Tiger337 Posted Wednesday at 01:40 AM Posted Wednesday at 01:40 AM On 4/1/2025 at 2:30 PM, oblong said: I will get physically angry if I start seeing people discuss turnout and all the other numbers ahead of the vote counting for these elections tonight... yeah we saw that in November that it doesn't mean jack ****. Just wait until the votes are counted. No photos of "long lines" and all that crap. Expand Those things matter as much as "best shape of his life" and "working on fundamentals" in spring training. 1 Quote
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