The 119th United States Congress

[LaceyLou]

6 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don’t know about a Catholics purge, other than to the degree they could use it as a way to wipe out Latinos. But the vice president himself is Catholic; six of the nine SCJs are Catholic, including five of the six conservatives; and a new kind of retrograde Catholic-infused political ideology that aligns really strongly with MAGA has really come to the fore. Catholics may never be truly embraced as a full brother-in-arms by the hardcore evangelical red hats and MAGA leadership, but I’m having a hard time envisioning them lumping Catholics in with Muslims, Jews, atheists, and anyone else they might try to genocide off the planet during the late stages of MAGA rule. I’d be surprised if MTG’s bid to amp up hate against Catholics gain any traction here. She might be getting talking points from the Kremlin on this one.

I could see it happening, the same way Hitler murdered many former allies and/or factions of the Nazi party in the Night of the Long Knives. 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, LaceyLou said:

I could see it happening, the same way Hitler murdered many former allies and/or factions of the Nazi party in the Night of the Long Knives. 

I don't know, I'm having trouble seeing where the where is for that. I don't get any sense of the same kind of hate for Catholics these people have for Muslims or Jews.

[smr-nj]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don’t know about a Catholics purge, other than to the degree they could use it as a way to wipe out Latinos. But the vice president himself is Catholic; six of the nine SCJs are Catholic, including five of the six conservatives; and a new kind of retrograde Catholic-infused political ideology that aligns really strongly with MAGA has really come to the fore. Catholics may never be truly embraced as a full brother-in-arms by the hardcore evangelical red hats and MAGA leadership, but I’m having a hard time envisioning them lumping Catholics in with Muslims, Jews, atheists, and anyone else they might try to genocide off the planet during the late stages of MAGA rule. I’d be surprised if MTG’s bid to amp up hate against Catholics gain any traction here. She might be getting talking points from the Kremlin on this one.

Chas, I think it’s possible because there are “regular, grew up in the 50’s,60’s, 70’s” Catholics, and then there are the new right-wing leading Catholics who want to revisit Latin masses, etc. , and who would absolutely throw their liberal leaning Catholic community right under the bus..

Then add that faction to the southern Protestants who have never actually stopped hating the papists. 😁

Yeah.

Possible… not willing to say it’s probable just yet. But possible.

[oblong]

Opus Dei.  That is the scary sect. 

[LaceyLou]

Or it could be that MTG was testing the waters, to see how far she could go. If too many people object, she'll call us snowflakes all while claiming she was talking about something/someone else.

[Tiger337]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don't know, I'm having trouble seeing where the where is for that. I don't get any sense of the same kind of hate for Catholics these people have for Muslims or Jews.

They are pretending to care about anti-semitism now though.  I think it's because Trump has been accused of being the next Hitler, so they want to pretend that he likes Jewish people.  

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

They are pretending to care about anti-semitism now though.  I think it's because Trump has been accused of being the next Hitler, so they want to pretend that he likes Jewish people.  

Great point. Like.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, smr-nj said:

Chas, I think it’s possible because there are “regular, grew up in the 50’s,60’s, 70’s” Catholics, and then there are the new right-wing leading Catholics who want to revisit Latin masses, etc. , and who would absolutely throw their liberal leaning Catholic community right under the bus..

Then add that faction to the southern Protestants who have never actually stopped hating the papists. 😁

Yeah.

Possible… not willing to say it’s probable just yet. But possible.

Like.

I'm one of those grew-upin-the-70s Catholics. If the Church was still mostly like that I might still be with them.

I don't know, though, I'm still not getting the kill-the-Catholics vibe from the world around me yet. But I guess I'll keep an eye out for that.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, LaceyLou said:

Or it could be that MTG was testing the waters, to see how far she could go. If too many people object, she'll call us snowflakes all while claiming she was talking about something/someone else.

There may be something to this, the idea that she (and others of her ilk) put the most heinous stuff out there in order to draw attacks on it, then she can reach back into the bubble and fundraise off the attack.

[Motown Bombers]

I like Lauren Underwood here. I think Pritzker will run for president instead.

 

[chasfh]

I’d totally vote for Lauren Underwood.

Pritzker would never go to the Senate. Why should he go from being the billionaire executive of one of the most important states in the union to being one of fifty mopes tilting against the windmill?

I don’t know that he wins a presidential campaign, though, for three reasons: (a) he’s Jewish; (b) he’s enormous; and (c) he’s Jewish. He is emblematic of the Democrats’ dilemma.

Edited Wednesday at 06:29 PM by chasfh

[Motown Bombers]

Lauren Underwood should be the future of the party and not AOC. Underwood has actually accomplished something. She's young like AOC, she won a competitive district by defeating a Republican incumbent, and she has actually passed legislation and even held a leadership position. 

I like Pritzker as a presidential candidate. Ironically, the leftist that hate Jews love Bernie Sanders who is a Jew. I wonder if they have discovered that yet? A billionaire Jew probably wouldn't play well to the white leftists. I still think Pritzker is going to make a run. 

[chasfh]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Lauren Underwood should be the future of the party and not AOC. Underwood has actually accomplished something. She's young like AOC, she won a competitive district by defeating a Republican incumbent, and she has actually passed legislation and even held a leadership position. 

I like Pritzker as a presidential candidate. Ironically, the leftist that hate Jews love Bernie Sanders who is a Jew. I wonder if they have discovered that yet? A billionaire Jew probably wouldn't play well to the white leftists. I still think Pritzker is going to make a run. 

While I think he might still lose enough votes on the margin that he'll lose to what white cis "Christian" man the Republicans run, especially if that man is not Trump (which would bring center right voters who bailed on this election back to their ticket), I do admit that 2028 may be a different animal from what 2025 is now, so it's wait and see for me. I do think it's willful to ignore that too much of the American electorate votes against immutable identifications they don't like for no other reason than that.

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

While I think he might still lose enough votes on the margin that he'll lose to what white cis "Christian" man the Republicans run, especially if that man is not Trump (which would bring center right voters who bailed on this election back to their ticket), I do admit that 2028 may be a different animal from what 2025 is now, so it's wait and see for me. I do think it's willful to ignore that too much of the American electorate votes against immutable identifications they don't like for no other reason than that.

I think Pritzker would win in 2028. I just don't know if he could make it through the primary. I also wonder if there are more to those Blagojevich tapes we haven't heard yet that would come out in a presidential campaign. 

[Tiger337]

It will be Trump versus Obama in a death match.  

[Tigermojo]

14 minutes ago, chasfh said:

While I think he might still lose enough votes on the margin that he'll lose to what white cis "Christian" man the Republicans run, especially if that man is not Trump (which would bring center right voters who bailed on this election back to their ticket), I do admit that 2028 may be a different animal from what 2025 is now, so it's wait and see for me. I do think it's willful to ignore that too much of the American electorate votes against immutable identifications they don't like for no other reason than that.

It will be Hulk Hogan for sure.