Trumps Presidency 2025

[chasfh]

Just now, Kacie said:

Like holic, they realize that he's made a fool of them and they'd rather run away than admit they were duped.

I wish you were right, but I don't think they are even close to there yet. Remember, they get their disinformation from a very different place from where we get our news, and all they are hearing is that Biden killed pretty little figure skaters.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[mtutiger]

 

[mtutiger]

More of this, please...

[gehringer_2]

56 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Of course, while many are rooting for Trump to somehow step aside, look who's a heartbeat away ...

Oh, and hey, look! Bluesky embeds now!

It cracks me up when some supposedly devout jerk will claim an exact 100% contradiction of Jesus' teaching as 'advice' to 'Christians.' If you actually claim to be a believer and even have a vague idea where to find the NT in a Bible,  you should be at least a little bit nervous about your own state of grace after doing this kind of crap. You can't even parody it, it's so ridiculous.

Edited Thursday at 11:56 PM by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It cracks me up when some supposedly devout jerk will claim an exact 100% contradiction of Jesus' teaching as 'advice' to 'Christians.' If you actually claim to be a believer and even have a vague idea where to find the NT in a Bible,  you should be at least a little bit nervous about your own state of grace after doing this kind of crap. You can't even parody it, it's so ridiculous.

JD's also is a convert to Catholicism, and it shows

[Motown Bombers]

 

[oblong]

29 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

JD's also is a convert to Catholicism, and it shows

And I thjnk it’s some weird sect as well. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

JD's also is a convert to Catholicism, and it shows

I like the Catholic concept of Heaven and purgatory where your supposed reward upon death is contingent on being a good person during your life.  On the other hand, in some Protestant religions it seems that you can be a bad person your whole life but still go to heaven if your accept Jesus into your life. That seems self serving.     

[gehringer_2]

38 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I like the Catholic concept of Heaven and purgatory where your supposed reward upon death is contingent on being a good person during your life.  On the other hand, in some Protestant religions it seems that you can be a bad person your whole life but still go to heaven if your accept Jesus into your life. That seems self serving.     

A theological debate older than the selection of what went into the NT. You have Paul 'saved by faith' who got a lot coverage by Athanasius (who is believed to have suggested the current 'canon'), but James  "Faith without works is useless" only got one short letter. 🤷‍♂️

For me the problem with Purgatory theology is that it comes too close to justifying torturing people on earth "for their own good."

Edited Friday at 02:09 AM by gehringer_2

[Tigerbomb13]

 

[pfife]

and she's going to direct national intelligence LOL

or make a coat out of some dalmatians

Edited Friday at 02:31 AM by pfife

[smr-nj]

Lying doesn’t matter. Proof doesn’t matter. Pictures don’t matter. Videos don’t matter. Congressional hearings don’t matter. Swearing to tell the truth at these hearings doesn’t matter.
 

What part of this isn’t anyone understanding anymore?

[Motown Bombers]

 

[HighOPS]

My $8 a month probably doesn't matter, but I prefer democracy to Star Trek.

Edited Friday at 03:28 AM by HighOPS

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

the price of unaffordable housing will get significantly more unaffordable with any increase in the price of Canadian dimensional lumber.

[CMRivdogs]

4 hours ago, Kacie said:

Odd side note, but where did Tim Kaine reappear from?  Like he's more visible now than he was during the 2016 campaign.  One of the dinosaurs, but seems to have a feel for the moment.  

I was thinking about that today (he's my Senator). He was just re-elected, so he's safe for six more years, he'll be 72. He's likely not running again in 2030, nothing to lose.

At least that's my theory. 

[Hongbit]

52 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I was thinking about that today (he's my Senator). He was just re-elected, so he's safe for six more years, he'll be 72. He's likely not running again in 2030, nothing to lose.

At least that's my theory. 

It’s the Cialis. 

[romad1]

Please be true

https://thehill.com/homenews/5117815-tulsi-gabbard-snowden-controversy/

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Director of National Intelligence nominee Tulsi Gabbard’s views on former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden and his theft of more than a million classified documents mushroomed into a major point of contention with Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee Thursday.

Republican senators pressed Gabbard to declare Snowden a “traitor” and to acknowledge that he “harmed” U.S. national security, but Gabbard refused to do so, raising alarm among Republican who will be voting on her nomination in the weeks ahead.

“People are holding their cards pretty close to the vest but that nomination is in trouble,” said one Republican senator, who requested anonymity to comment candidly on Gabbard’s chances of getting through the Senate.

 

[romad1]

And Kash Patel is not suitable for FBI

 

[romad1]

Gabbard "in the most trouble" per the NBC reporter on my tv this morning.  We will see. 

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

This, right here. This is what people voting for. This guy.

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

It cracks me up when some supposedly devout jerk will claim an exact 100% contradiction of Jesus' teaching as 'advice' to 'Christians.' If you actually claim to be a believer and even have a vague idea where to find the NT in a Bible,  you should be at least a little bit nervous about your own state of grace after doing this kind of crap. You can't even parody it, it's so ridiculous.

Unless y’think Christianity is all a load of crap and yer just using it as a way to placate the people with fakety-fake pious talk in exchange for their votes and their consent and their indifference … 🤔

Edited Friday at 12:58 PM by chasfh

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, oblong said:

And I thjnk it’s some weird sect as well. 

Indeed. As as the bold-faced part below indicates, he uses what’s convenient to support his own secular goal, and discards the rest of it.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/jd-vances-catholicism-helped-shape-his-views-so-did-little-known-group-catholic-thinkers

Catholicism provided [Vance] a new way of looking at the addictions, family breakdowns and other social ills he described in his 2016 bestselling memoir, “Hillbilly Elegy.”

“I felt desperate for a worldview that understood our bad behavior as simultaneously social and individual, structural and moral; that recognized that we are products of our environment; that we have a responsibility to change that environment, but that we are still moral beings with individual duties,” he wrote in a 2020 essay.

His conversion also put Vance in close touch with a Catholic intellectual movement, viewed by some critics as having reactionary or authoritarian leanings, that has been little known to the American public until Vance’s rise to the national stage as the Republican vice presidential nominee.

These are not your father’s Catholic conservatives.

The professors and media personalities in this network don’t all agree on everything — even on what to call themselves – but most go by “postliberal.” Vance has used that term to describe himself, though the Trump-Vance campaign did not respond to questions about where Vance sees himself in the movement and whether he shares some of the beliefs promoted by many postliberals.

Postliberals do share some longstanding Catholic conservative views, such as opposition to abortion and LGBTQ+ rights.

But where Catholic conservatives of the past have seen big government as a problem rather than a solution, the postliberals want a muscular government — one that they control.

They envision a counterrevolution in which they would take over government bureaucracy and institutions like universities from within, replacing entrenched “elites” with their own and acting upon their vision of the “common good.”

“What is needed … is regime change — the peaceful but vigorous overthrow of a corrupt and corrupting liberal ruling class and the creation of a postliberal order,” wrote Patrick Deneen, a prominent author in the movement, in his 2023 book, “Regime Change.”

Vance has signaled his alignment with some of what Catholic postliberals advocate. He’s said the next time his allies control the presidency or Congress, “ we really need to be really ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power” and said Republicans should seize institutions, including universities “to make them work for our people.” He’s advocated for government policies to spur childbearing, a notion reflected in his digs at “childless cat ladies” with allegedly no stake in America’s future.

Scholars who study this movement caution that Vance does his own thinking and doesn’t necessarily embrace everything proposed by postliberals — or by a subset of them known as integralists, who want a state working in tandem with the Catholic Church. The latter is not a label Vance has used for himself.

But Vance has spoken alongside prominent postliberals at public events and praised some of their work.