Trumps Presidency 2025

[CMRivdogs]

As I've said before DEA or Equal Employment or whatever you want to call it has been going on as early as the 70s. It's not new, a few groups who weren't recognized then are now included. The pansy MEGA's are just upset that more qualified people are getting jobs that the thought they should just be handed to them

[mtutiger]

The fact that Baghdad Bob here is delivering all this with a ****-eating grin on his face says it all, doesn't it?

[Tigermojo]

44 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The fact that Baghdad Bob here is delivering all this with a ****-eating grin on his face says it all, doesn't it?

Doesn't make any sense. The heat would melt our igloos.

[Dan Gilmore]

New candidate for punchable face.

[romad1]

1 hour ago, Dan Gilmore said:

New candidate for punchable face.

For true

[romad1]

adderal and ketamine are going to be the death of us.

[Edman85]

13 minutes ago, romad1 said:

adderal and ketamine are going to be the death of us.

Hopefully Elon...

[LaceyLou]

18 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Oddly, I think the 'woke' part is the most important  - at least as I envision it. Which is why this 'scrubbing' is so  insidious.  My observation is that one of the biggest impediments in US race relations is that your mainstream average white person looks out at underclass pathology and doesn't understand it, and that makes it really easy for them - almost forces them, to fall back sort of a subliminal global assumption that there must be something wrong with 'those people' otherwise they should have caught up in all these years since de jure racism was outlawed. And this operates completely separately from the way they interact with minorities in person - where they believe and very likely are, being what they regard as 'colorblind'. But the actual blindness is that most whites know nothing about the history of how the US has managed to repeatedly destroy lower class social capital - in particular in black America, which is what the underclass society actual needs to build to pull itself up. - The history of everything from Wilson purging minorities from the Civil Service to HUD helping to engineer white flight that broke urban tax bases, to bank and insurance red-lining, to surburan restrictive deed covenants, to the drug enforcement policies that criminalized urban youth, to urban de-industrialization,  gentrification, and ultimately political resource starvation of urban centers in favor of suburbia where more votes had moved. Virtually every generation America does something to devalue whatever social capital the urban underclass manages to build. We keep sleeping on all the ways we have systemically insured the that underclass stays the underclass. For my money, that is what White America needs to understand, that their probably mostly unconscious political decisions made innocently (in the sense that they saw no racial significance ) in their natural political interests have had and continue to have disproportionate consequences on people they may have no particular animus towards but are hurting none-the-less. But the $64 dollar question is how do you bring society to a raised consciousness of how this nation has actually (not)worked for minorities without turning it into an 'it's your fault' game when the people you are talking to don't see or understood how anything *they* have done individaully is wrong, when all they've done is to be nice to the individuals they meet and then politically just do what you are supposed to do, which is vote in the interests of your district?

Instead we are often alienating the people we are trying to wake up - whose support is needed to get out of the  Groundhog Day we are trapped in on race.

Unfortunately, it's beginning to look like we're going to have to wait until MAGA has run its course to really delve into this with actual solutions. And I suspect that there will always be a portion of the population that will never come around-they were just drowned out until MAGA woke them up.

There have been a lot of really good books about poverty and/or race in recent years-I'm sure you've read some of them (Caste, On Poverty, Evicted, White Trash, etc).

[LaceyLou]

3 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said:

New candidate for punchable face.

We could probably create a county fair game booth at this rate.

[Edman85]

My brother lives in Cincy and sent me this text this morning.

"Reading about JD Vance taking his daughter on a walk around his Cincinnati neighborhood and getting confronted by protestors in infuriating. The protest was at the corner of Torrence and Columbia Parkway. Colombia Parkway is basically a freeway and he knew full well a protest was going on there. If this did actually happen, he knowingly walked a 3 year-old to a confusing freeway intersection occupied by a crowd that is hostile toward him."

[romad1]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

My brother lives in Cincy and sent me this text this morning.

"Reading about JD Vance taking his daughter on a walk around his Cincinnati neighborhood and getting confronted by protestors in infuriating. The protest was at the corner of Torrence and Columbia Parkway. Colombia Parkway is basically a freeway and he knew full well a protest was going on there. If this did actually happen, he knowingly walked a 3 year-old to a confusing freeway intersection occupied by a crowd that is hostile toward him."

He's all about the setup. 

[Tiger337]

Trump is really leaning into the idea that things may get bad before they get good and is telling America to have faith in his plan.  This goes against what he said in his campaign and really isn't his usual style.  His core base is going to lap it up because ther heads are so far up his ass.  It will be interesting to see how many moderates he loses though.   

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/09/trump-recession-tariffs-2025-economy-00220016

 

[1984Echoes]

42 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Trump is really leaning into the idea that things may get bad before they get good and is telling America to have faith in his plan.  This goes against what he said in his campaign and really isn't his usual style.  His core base is going to lap it up because ther heads are so far up his ass.  It will be interesting to see how many moderates he loses though.   

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/09/trump-recession-tariffs-2025-economy-00220016

 

Well...

This is what Putin fears also.

So Trump of course was taking notes from His Master.

Piss off the Proletariat and they will all come out with their pitchforks to take off his head.

He's trying to placate them by talking them out of their pitchforks... for at least as long as it takes before he can get the US Army on board with confronting and gunning down "disloyal Americans".

See... there's a reason Trump has been kissing Putin's boots for over 20 years and it wasn't only about a Trump Tower Moscow.

[1984Echoes]

"Vlad? How do I run a corrupt fascist murderous dictatorship like you do? Where... I get all the money?"

[romad1]

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2025/03/06/tesla-india-auto-market-trump-tariffs/81753409007/

self serving for him to be in government, no?

[romad1]

[romad1]

15 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Of course that's the USMC and they are fighting the Japanese Empire.  Still. 

 

[romad1]

 

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, Edman85 said:

My brother lives in Cincy and sent me this text this morning.

"Reading about JD Vance taking his daughter on a walk around his Cincinnati neighborhood and getting confronted by protestors in infuriating. The protest was at the corner of Torrence and Columbia Parkway. Colombia Parkway is basically a freeway and he knew full well a protest was going on there. If this did actually happen, he knowingly walked a 3 year-old to a confusing freeway intersection occupied by a crowd that is hostile toward him."

The more these people make it look like they’re being attacked, the more they can justify extreme actions to contain the “attackers”.

[romad1]

25 minutes ago, chasfh said:

The more these people make it look like they’re being attacked, the more they can justify extreme actions to contain the “attackers”.

the revolutionary needs the counter-revolutionary just as much

[Tiger337]

10 minutes ago, romad1 said:

the revolutionary needs the counter-revolutionary just as much

If you can get enough people to protest, non-violent protests do work in combatting dictators.  All it takes is 3.5% of the poulation to be actively involved in peaceful protests.  

https://commonslibrary.org/can-nonviolent-struggle-defeat-a-dictator-this-database-emphatically-says-yes/

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-54142487

[chasfh]

9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

If you can get enough people to protest, non-violent protests do work in combatting dictators.  All it takes is 3.5% of the poulation to be actively involved in peaceful protests.  

https://commonslibrary.org/can-nonviolent-struggle-defeat-a-dictator-this-database-emphatically-says-yes/

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-54142487

That would be 12 million people in the US.

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That would be 12 million people in the US.

That's do-able.  The BLM protests had more people than that.  The problem is those became violent which makes peaceful people lose support for a movement.  How to prevent the dictator from getting violent or provoking violence?   I think you need to get people who look like the rulers involved.  That means somewhat older white people.  If they shoot minorties or White college students, unfortunately many will assume the victims are trouble makers.  Would they dare start shooting old white people though?  

[romad1]

The Indian independence movement and the Civil Rights movement were largely non-violent.   Ditto the end of East Germany.  However, the scene in "Gandhi" where Candace Bergen asks how nonviolence would work against Hitler is pretty salient.  These people are Nazis.  They want a violent reaction to anything that smells of protest. 

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, romad1 said:

The Indian independence movement and the Civil Rights movement were largely non-violent.   Ditto the end of East Germany.  However, the scene in "Gandhi" where Candace Bergen asks how nonviolence would work against Hitler is pretty salient.  These people are Nazis.  They want a violent reaction to anything that smells of protest. 

We aren't close to a Hitler situatin at this point.  I think the protests would need to start before people become desensitized to brutality.