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  On 3/16/2025 at 1:26 PM, Edman85 said:

They don't even care about saving money, because they aren't. They care about skimming off the top.

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Reported saved money and actual saved money aren't the same thing, and to your point, for their purposes they don't have to be.

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding in general, but I could swear practically everyone is saying that red hat America is mad as hell at the way Trump is running things and that his approval is plummeting.

Or maybe NBC polling cooked the numbers to appease the fascists.

One or the other, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

5. 📊 NBC poll: Trump high, Dem low

 

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Graphic: NBC News

More registered voters say the U.S. is heading in the right direction (44%) than at any point since early 2004, though a majority (54%) still say the country is on the wrong track, according to an NBC News poll out this morning.

  • Trump's job approval rating (47%) matches his all-time highs in NBC News polling throughout his political career (37% "strongly approve," 10% "somewhat approve").
  • 1,000 registered voters were polled March 7-11, with a margin of error of ±3.1%. Keep reading.

🥊 The Democratic Party reached an all-time low in popularity in NBC polling dating back to 1990:

  • 27% of those polled said they have positive views of the party (20% positive ... 7% very positive). Keep reading.

Go deeper: NBC polling on DOGE, Musk.

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I think this is an example of how the simplified poll questions don’t drill down enough to mean very much. People from very different perspectives can each poll as unsatisfied with the direction but one thinks things are too liberal while the other thinks they are too conservative.

I expect this to become a little clearer as the tariffs, layoffs and likely recession eat away at the non-MAGA portion that supported Trump. 

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And as we know, many are not paying much attention to politics on a day to day basis. That oblivious attitude may not hold for long even if they never show strong interest in being that much better informed.

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  On 3/16/2025 at 4:50 PM, Dan Gilmore said:

I think this is an example of how the simplified poll questions don’t drill down enough to mean very much. People from very different perspectives can each poll as unsatisfied with the direction but one thinks things are too liberal while the other thinks they are too conservative.

I expect this to become a little clearer as the tariffs, layoffs and likely recession eat away at the non-MAGA portion that supported Trump. 

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Also, it's objectively terrible for a new President to be underwater 56 days into their Presidency.

Just absolutely terrible framing by Axios, but that is to be expected.

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  On 3/16/2025 at 4:26 PM, chasfh said:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding in general, but I could swear practically everyone is saying that red hat America is mad as hell at the way Trump is running things and that his approval is plummeting.

Or maybe NBC polling cooked the numbers to appease the fascists.

One or the other, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

5. 📊 NBC poll: Trump high, Dem low

 

image.thumb.png.1aa35a32f4c8008ab0111c6211769178.png

Graphic: NBC News

More registered voters say the U.S. is heading in the right direction (44%) than at any point since early 2004, though a majority (54%) still say the country is on the wrong track, according to an NBC News poll out this morning.

  • Trump's job approval rating (47%) matches his all-time highs in NBC News polling throughout his political career (37% "strongly approve," 10% "somewhat approve").
  • 1,000 registered voters were polled March 7-11, with a margin of error of ±3.1%. Keep reading.

🥊 The Democratic Party reached an all-time low in popularity in NBC polling dating back to 1990:

  • 27% of those polled said they have positive views of the party (20% positive ... 7% very positive). Keep reading.

Go deeper: NBC polling on DOGE, Musk.

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I think Trump approval polls have stayed remarkably consistent over time.  People decided early on that they either love him or hate him and not many have budged.  

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  On 3/16/2025 at 4:26 PM, chasfh said:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding in general, but I could swear practically everyone is saying that red hat America is mad as hell at the way Trump is running things and that his approval is plummeting.

Or maybe NBC polling cooked the numbers to appease the fascists.

One or the other, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

5. 📊 NBC poll: Trump high, Dem low

 

image.thumb.png.1aa35a32f4c8008ab0111c6211769178.png

Graphic: NBC News

More registered voters say the U.S. is heading in the right direction (44%) than at any point since early 2004, though a majority (54%) still say the country is on the wrong track, according to an NBC News poll out this morning.

  • Trump's job approval rating (47%) matches his all-time highs in NBC News polling throughout his political career (37% "strongly approve," 10% "somewhat approve").
  • 1,000 registered voters were polled March 7-11, with a margin of error of ±3.1%. Keep reading.

🥊 The Democratic Party reached an all-time low in popularity in NBC polling dating back to 1990:

  • 27% of those polled said they have positive views of the party (20% positive ... 7% very positive). Keep reading.

Go deeper: NBC polling on DOGE, Musk.

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It could be simply who was polled. A lot of people (me included) will not answer phones or take surveys online either.

And to be fair, I think a lot of registered Democrats are not satisfied with the way the Ds in Washington are handling things right now-in fact some are furious. I don't know how many for the same reason I can't say this poll is accurate.

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  On 3/16/2025 at 7:22 PM, mtutiger said:

Only Axios could frame a poll showing Trump underwater 56 days into his Presidency and registering at 30-67 with independent voters as "Trump high"

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Disagree. New York Times and Washington Post could definitely frame it in the same way.

Posted
  On 3/16/2025 at 8:39 PM, LaceyLou said:

He can't stand that there's a place people can go and get books, movies, and a lot of other things for free. 

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Technically not free, but I take your point. They don’t want people to learn things. They want people to work.

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That’s what they’re shooting for, anyway. They want people to get used to living at subsistence level. Like during the Gilded Age. You know, when America was great.

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  On 3/16/2025 at 10:05 PM, chasfh said:

That’s what they’re shooting for, anyway. They want people to get used to living at subsistence level. Like during the Gilded Age. You know, when America was great.

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Back when workers owed their souls to the company store...

Posted
  On 3/16/2025 at 11:44 PM, CMRivdogs said:

And lived to be 50. If you made 60 you were very old

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This conflicts with the Ramaswamie guy celebrating the 88 year old workers.  I think they will pump us full of vitamins, hormones, succulents (i don't know why I included that) and brain accelerants to get us to work until we are not useful.

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https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/gridiron-club-journalism-dinner-omits-toast-us-president-first-time-140

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The Gridiron Club journalism dinner omitted the toast to U.S. president for the first time in 140 years, according to a report.

“At most of the Gridiron Club’s Spring Dinners, the President of the United States has spoken. In some years, the Vice President has filled in, and on occasion a high-level Administration figure,” said Gridiron President Judy Woodruff, who works for PBS, according to Politico.

“I invited the President, the Vice President, the National Security Adviser, and the Interior Secretary — all declined. I was told the Secretary of State would not be available. To close the evening — when the sitting President usually speaks — we showed video and audio excerpts of the past four Republican presidents, starting with President Trump in 2018. These demonstrated the good humor and fellowship this dinner is all about,” he added.

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner, a cabinet secretary, was reportedly in attendance at the dinner but the toast to President Trump was still omitted. 

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  On 3/16/2025 at 11:44 PM, CMRivdogs said:

And lived to be 50. If you made 60 you were very old

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I think most of increased longevity has to do with medical advances (which are also in jeopardy under this administration) and lifestyle changes (such as less smoking).  Work place safety (also in jeopardy if de-regulation goes too far) plays a role too.   

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