Tigerbomb13 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Can you imagine if Biden were in that same scenario? We would hear non-stop about how he’s too old and has dementia. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted March 27 Posted March 27 If Trump really wants Greenland, he should: 1) Carve out the territory that 95% of Greenlanders currently live in. That is a small strip of southwest coastland from the southern tip, and up about 1/3 of the coast. Call that "Independent Greenland" and they can decide whatever they want. Be a part of Denmark. Be a part of America. Be an independent country. Be a commonwealth similar to Puerto Rico, of EITHER Denmark or America... THEY get to choose. 2) Now, Greenland has a pop. of ~53K, of which ~50K live in this strip of land. Trump could take over the balance of Greenland for "security reasons" (our current military and space bases there...). But he can't just TAKE it. He has to make them "an offer they can't refuse". Think Louisiana Purchase. Or the purchase of Alaska. Just spit-ballin' here: $100 Billion to Denmark. $10 Billion to Independent Greenland? (The purchased portion would be called "State of Greenland" as part of the United States?) 6% royalties for ALL natural resources (at wholesale cost) mined or otherwise, from the State of Greenland for the next 100 years. 4% to Denmark, 2% to Independent Greenland residents? And a promise to develop anything within 10 miles of Independent Greenland (let's say Ports, Shopping Centers, Walmarts, anything) only with their approval. Some distance so they don't feel encroached upon. Also: All residents of "Independent Greenland" have passport/visa-free access to the State of Greenland. But I'm just Manifest Destiny'ing here... Quote
chasfh Posted March 27 Posted March 27 11 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Of all the dumb things this president has done, his obsession with tariffs may be the dumbest. Does he really think we can immediately just bring all manufacturing back with the snap of a finger? Like there’s already the infrastructure and supply networks in place where this can happen in what world? He has no idea how any of this works, and everyone around him knows it. They just don’t have a spine to tell him. This does nothing other than kill business. Bringing manufacturing back is not their objective. Driving the economy into the ditch is the objective, because it will serve their true goal of a massive wealth transfer from the middle and working classes to the oligarch class, which he is the current leader of. It's why Trump is so smitten with the Gilded Age, the era he is referring to as that when America was great. There was no middle class during the Gilded Age—only robber barons and the great unwashed masses. This is what he—what they—want to return America to. Just wait until they change the official currency from the US Dollar to Dogecoin. Won't that be a hoot. Quote
chasfh Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 hours ago, romad1 said: What else are they keeping from him? Perhaps what he knows is that they disappeared at the hands of Russian soldiers who crossed over into Lithuania while bivouacking in Belarus. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Bringing manufacturing back is not their objective. Driving the economy into the ditch is the objective, because it will serve their true goal of a massive wealth transfer from the middle and working classes to the oligarch class, which he is the current leader of. It's why Trump is so smitten with the Gilded Age, the era he is referring to as that when America was great. There was no middle class during the Gilded Age—only robber barons and the great unwashed masses. This is what he—what they—want to return America to. Just wait until they change the official currency from the US Dollar to Dogecoin. Won't that be a hoot. I don't think he's smart enough to figure that out, but I agree there are many people who would love that and they have his ear. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: That's hilarious. again, are Dems even trying to weaponize this humiliation? they should be if this happened under Obama or Biden, Fox would run 3 hours specials about America's lack of respect around the world, and the need for a dictator to restore our lost honor, given away by the black guy or the old guy. Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 27 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: again, are Dems even trying to weaponize this humiliation? they should be if this happened under Obama or Biden, Fox would run 3 hours specials about America's lack of respect around the world, and the need for a dictator to restore our lost honor, given away by the black guy or the old guy. Yup, instead it will just be another day that ends in Y Quote
Sports_Freak Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Donald Trump will destroy the US economy to distract from the fact that his administration is inept and corrupt. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted March 27 Posted March 27 14 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Of all the dumb things this president has done, his obsession with tariffs may be the dumbest. Does he really think we can immediately just bring all manufacturing back with the snap of a finger? Like there’s already the infrastructure and supply networks in place where this can happen in what world? He has no idea how any of this works, and everyone around him knows it. They just don’t have a spine to tell him. This does nothing other than kill business. People are missing the big picture. Why did these jobs leave this country in the first place? Because of labor costs and environmental laws. Going to Mexico allows the auto industry to sell cars less expensive, pollute the environment and pay poverty wages while making huge profits. The GOP plan is to eliminate the unions to allow American workers to be exploited. And end environment regulations to allow industries to pollute our land and sea. Once unemployment hits 20%, people will be happy to work for $5 an hour. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 47 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: You will know if this real or only a PR gloss by whether a couple thousand people are let go. Quote
Tiger337 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said: again, are Dems even trying to weaponize this humiliation? they should be if this happened under Obama or Biden, Fox would run 3 hours specials about America's lack of respect around the world, and the need for a dictator to restore our lost honor, given away by the black guy or the old guy. I agree the Dems are being way too passive. 1 Quote
RatkoVarda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: What, exactly, should the Dems be doing? this is like asking me what Scott Harris should do. HE'S the MLB guy, not me, but.... 1. Hold a press conference every day about Trump and Musk's corruption. Need to spoon feed the media something every day. that is why they cover Trump. Every day he gives them a story on a platter they do not need to work for. 2. Put Crockett, Jeffries and other young people out there who have the instincts and energy to fight. Eff norms. 3. Throw sh\t at the wall every day and see what sticks - run with that. Remember there is no penalty for lying, so don't worry too much about the truth. 4. Talk EVERY day about how TRUMP'S high prices, TRUMP'S corruption, TRUMP'S incompetence effect ordinary people (like FEMA's inability to respond in the Carolinas). Don't focus on his stupidity and cruelness and amorality - no one effing cares. Focus on how those things hurt Americans. 5. They need to play the media game a lot better, and they need to give the American people the entertainment they demand from politics. Competence is frankly irrelevant. 6. "Donald Trump continues to hurt ordinary Americans by ...." is how they should start every sentence. edit 7. AND I want a steady diet of "Billionaire Welfare Queen Elon Musk controls the President." I think that clearly resonates with a huge number of Americans. Edited March 27 by RatkoVarda 1 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 27 Posted March 27 They literally are doing all of that. Jeffries holds a press conference weekly. The last time Crockett talked to the media she called Greg Abbott Hot Wheels. The media doesn't care because it isn't entertaining. Chris Murphy is talking to anyone who will listen. Dems are constantly on the news talking about Musk and Trump. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Bernie Sanders, though, still hasn't said anything about the Signal leak. Probably doesn't want to draw attention to his girl. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 sounds like you are satisfied with the job Dems are doing i am not Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: sounds like you are satisfied with the job Dems are doing i am not Edited March 27 by Motown Bombers Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 27 Posted March 27 dEmS aReNt FiGhTiNg This is the most listened to podcast, even more than Joe Rogan. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 if my team's closer is Jason Foley, can't I ask them to find someone better? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Adam Schiff on that same podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/exclusive-senator-schiff-calls-for-trump-admin-resignations/id1510240831?i=1000700951081 Dem governors who are fighting back: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/democratic-governors-are-leading-the-fight-against-trump/id1510240831?i=1000700654087 Rallies Dems are having: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/boom-gop-gets-stunned-as-dems-finally-start-fighting/id1510240831?i=1000700509892 Democratic congressman Greg Cesar on Trump and the oligarchy: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rep-casar-responds-to-trump-wrecking-economy/id1510240831?i=1000700418094 Quote
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