RatkoVarda Posted April 4 Posted April 4 4 suckers and losers are arriving at Dover today. markets are crashing. but Trump is getting out his shine box for his Saudi owners in Florida and MAGA still pissed at Biden because of some trans DIII volleyball player when an administration is not punished - but celebrated - for its lies, incompetence, ignorance and cruelty - how do we even move forward as a country? 1 Quote
RatkoVarda Posted April 4 Posted April 4 hate this guy but good to see https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sen-rand-paul-terminate-trump-tariffs-before-its-too-late SEN RAND PAUL: Terminate the Trump tariffs before it's too late The truth is that tariffs are taxes. They don’t punish foreign governments; they punish American families Quote
CMRivdogs Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Part time President. Imagine what damage he could do workin full time Quote
1984Echoes Posted April 4 Posted April 4 5 hours ago, chasfh said: At least one of these was an unforced purposeful tanking. Two, after today... Quote
chasfh Posted April 4 Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Winter is here...Just waiting on he Death Walkers He was outed as an Obama economic advisor on the chyron, so viewers can safely ignore and/or laugh at him. Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 16 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Seriously, good luck with this message... What is this guy even talking about? Nobody is becoming a slave to foreign powers. We've got the strongest most influential country in the world and assholes like him are trying to destroy it. 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 53 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Seriously, good luck with this message... LOL, not quite. Reality? It's money that is real, countries are social constructs. Edited April 5 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
pfife Posted April 5 Posted April 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, mtutiger said: Seriously, good luck with this message... if money means nothing why do we all work? bet this whole ass clown cares about his money Edited April 5 by pfife Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Money, it's a crime Share it fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie Money, so it's said It's the root of all evil today But if you ask for a rise It's no surprise that they're giving none away 1 Quote
oblong Posted April 5 Posted April 5 I never paid that song much attention until I heard an acoustic version. Sometimes you need to hear it different to register. Especially classic rock that I have heard my whole life tnat it becomes background noise, like airplanes because I grew up near the airport. Quote
LaceyLou Posted April 5 Posted April 5 If losing money means nothing, and in the end people won't miss it, then billionaires should be happy to give up some of theirs to help maintain the infrastructure and the people of the country that's supposed to mean so much more. 1 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted April 5 Posted April 5 It's good to know that there wouldn't be MAGA outrage if it would have been Joe Biden who crashed our economy. Right... Which Democrat is going to clean this mess up in 2028? Quote
romad1 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 Listening to Sam Stein and Tim Miller yesterday. Stein was talking about how this kind of market crash and a recession/depression would break the fever dream. Tim Miller wasn't having it citing the case of a global pandemic made fundamentally worse by the RW media and the MAGAs and that had not sufficiently broken through evidenced by Jan 6 and response. I personally think Biden won because of the obviousness of the failed COVID response with regular people but the recovery went too well and people returned to their tribes and comfortable narratives aided and abetted by the oligarchs creating those narratives that suited them best. I think the roaring twenties were still the roaring twenties after October 1929 but things really got faccacta after Smoot Hawley. I think the roaring 2020s will still be the roaring 2020s until the real effects of the tax cuts to aid the billionaire class create a sucking chest wound to the social safety net occurs and that is felt. Might take 6-12 months. I don't think the environment where people are seeing life savings wiped out by golfing idiot and a drug addicts wielding chain saws is cutting all medical and scientific research funding is going help in marginal elections but the real change in perceptions has yet to occur. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, LaceyLou said: If losing money means nothing, and in the end people won't miss it, then billionaires should be happy to give up some of theirs to help maintain the infrastructure and the people of the country that's supposed to mean so much more. The oligarchs of the Gilded Age sure didn’t give up their money to maintain public infrastructure and help the poor people of the country. Quote
chasfh Posted April 5 Posted April 5 I’m thinking one key difference here is that China can help their domestic consumers by fixing prices to head off what would normally be soaring prices on domestic goods in a laissez-faire economy like ours. Quote
LaceyLou Posted April 5 Posted April 5 11 minutes ago, chasfh said: The oligarchs of the Gilded Age sure didn’t give up their money to maintain public infrastructure and help the poor people of the country. Nope, they didn't-except for a few that built libraries and other institutions so that they could slap their names on them. That's why I roll my eyes when somebody says us poors need to sacrifice in order to 'save' the country. Quote
romad1 Posted April 5 Posted April 5 1 hour ago, chasfh said: I’m thinking one key difference here is that China can help their domestic consumers by fixing prices to head off what would normally be soaring prices on domestic goods in a laissez-faire economy like ours. Also, those consumers have a recent memory of being killed in service of the one-party state. Quote
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