Trumps Presidency 2025

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[Tigerbomb13]

25 minutes ago, romad1 said:

that right there is some frightening language.  

Marisa Kabas: "“We need to get better at treating this like a business,” Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons said, explaining he wants to see a deportation process “like (Amazon) Prime, but with human beings.”" — Bluesky

 

Inhumane monsters

[CMRivdogs]

The guy is more suited for selling used cars on late night TV than being the leader of what was formerly the greatest country in the free world.

 

[gehringer_2]

So it turns out there may be one upside to the MAGA resistance to measles vaccination: It's that the measles vaccine is actually a combination vaccine with Mumps, and if Mumps spreads in widely in Maga circles it can sterilize a good number of MAGA men and keep them from reproducing. 

Always look for the Sunny Side!

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

The guy is more suited for selling used cars on late night TV than being the leader of what was formerly the greatest country in the free world.

 

There is a serious problem and I certainly don't know the best way out of it but I'm pretty sure Trump doesn't either. We do need to persuade China that they have no alternative but to start restructuring their economy to a normal one, but that is not going to be an easy task because the Chinese don't understand how to do that themselves. They've gone the housing investment route and that has blown up, now they are on a new industrial production export investment binge and Trump is trying to  make sure that blows that up for them as well. Europe doesn't like what the US is doing but they also have a problem with China and don't what to get in bed with them over US policy, but the US is effectively pushing them there - one of many mistakes Trump is making.

But the Chinese are going to fight change as hard as they can because any change that threatens the status quo threatens the regime. 

Edited Wednesday at 03:43 PM by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

25 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

There is a serious problem and I certainly don't know the best way out of it but I'm pretty sure Trump doesn't either. We do need to persuade China that they have no alternative but to start restructuring their economy to a normal one, but that is not going to be an easy task because the Chinese don't understand how to do that themselves. They've gone the housing investment route and that has blown up, now they are on a new industrial production export investment binge and Trump is trying to  make sure that blows that up for them as well. Europe doesn't like what the US is doing but they also have a problem with China and don't what to get in bed with them over US policy, but the US is effectively pushing them there - one of many mistakes Trump is making.

But the Chinese are going to fight change as hard as they can because any change that threatens the status quo threatens the regime. 

That's why tariffs or some other kind of strategy should be focused on China and not every country in the world.  I think he's punishing the entire world just so he can brag about some little "victories" over some weak noncompetitive countries. It's like an NCAA football powerhouse, beating up on FCS teams, but losing the big games.  

Actually, they best thing he can do is to do nothing since he's clueless about the economy anyway.  

Edited Wednesday at 04:07 PM by Tiger337

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In a way we might wish he could, and wants to run again. He’s in serious IDGAF mode. Because he doesn’t have to. He only cared about his supporters when he needed their votes.  They have nothing to offer him anymore. He’s always been transactional.  

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[Hongbit]

So predictable.  Another great day to be a Billionaire 

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18 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Lee, they might as well make you Sec of Commerce.....

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26 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Boom boom boss man involved

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3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

The script just writes itself

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Just now, Tigerbomb13 said:

The script just writes itself

I just wish the script writers weren't from The Office

[Mr.TaterSalad]

125% LOL. The writers, producers, and actors put all that work into creating VEEP when they could have just followed Trump around with a camera and gotten funnier footage.

[CMRivdogs]

JVL with some scary thoughts today in light of the SC ruling on deportations.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/concentration-camps-and-the-deportation

The over simplified version is something like this. 1) The Regime argues that they are able to send US Citizens to a prison in a foreign country then...

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If it deports an individual to foreign soil,

And this individual leaves U.S. airspace before a court order forbids it,

Then the government has neither the ability to bring, nor an interest in bringing, the individual back to U.S. soil. Ever.

What would stop the Regime from snatching a US Citizen off the streets and shipping them to El Salvador without a proper hearing?

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To begin with: The president says that he is interested in renditioning undesirable U.S. citizens to El Salvador. His press secretary confirms that the White House is exploring ways in which such actions might be accomplished.

It is important to understand that there is no—none, zero—practical reason to imprison an American citizen abroad.

America’s legal system is (at least in theory) functional. We have the resources to investigate, arrest, and incarcerate criminals. And no one is talking about the extradition of American citizens because of crimes they committed on foreign soil. This isn’t about returning defendants so that they can face trial in the venue in which they allegedly committed crimes.

No. The only reason America would need to use foreign prisons would be to get around the American legal system.

And the American legal system currently admits that if the government chooses to disappear individuals into foreign gulags, there is nothing it can do to stop it.

The remedy—the only remedy—is impeachment.

Which is to say: There is no remedy.

Last takes it another step further

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Final question: If the U.S. government can outsource extralegal detentions to El Salvador, could it outsource extralegal executions to El Salvador, too?2

 

 

[Motown Bombers]

Apparently boom boom bossman put a 90 day pause on tariffs? I can't do four years of this. 

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Apparently boom boom bossman put a 90 day pause on tariffs? I can't do four years of this. 

either can American industry. TBH - I think it won't continue that long. Trump will continue to be a model of inconsistency and chaos, but I think he will soon enough be bored of the topic and book whatever wins he imagines he's made on Tariffs and move on to other things..

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19 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

JVL with some scary thoughts today in light of the SC ruling on deportations.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/concentration-camps-and-the-deportation

The over simplified version is something like this. 1) The Regime argues that they are able to send US Citizens to a prison in a foreign country then...

What would stop the Regime from snatching a US Citizen off the streets and shipping them to El Salvador without a proper hearing?

Last takes it another step further

 

Well, fellow undesirable U.S.citizens, that’s quite a situation he’s creating.

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Just now, gehringer_2 said:

either can American industry. TBH - I think it won't continue that long. Trump will continue to be a model of inconsistency and chaos, but I think he will soon enough be bored of the topic and book whatever wins he imagines he's made on Tariffs and move on to other things..

I was hoping his morbid obesity would catch up with him. 

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1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

either can American industry. TBH - I think it won't continue that long. Trump will continue to be a model of inconsistency and chaos, but I think he will soon enough be bored of the topic and book whatever wins he imagines he's made on Tariffs and move on to other things..

Careful what you wish for. Those other things might include the renditioning of undesirable U.S. citizens on an industrial scale.

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Careful what you wish for. Those other things might include the renditioning of undesirable U.S. citizens on an industrial scale.

Indeed, Note I didn't say I thought the overall situation would get better!

Edited Wednesday at 06:35 PM by gehringer_2

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[RatkoVarda]

destroys $10T in market value for nothing - goes back to golfing - MAGA praises his "leadership"

[CMRivdogs]

Interesting thoughts from Charlie Angus on the anniversary of Dietrich Bonhoeffer's execution  
 

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In 1933, when Hitler took power, Bonhoeffer began to speak out:

"The role of the church is not simply to bandage the victims under the wheel, but to jam a spoke in the wheel itself."

This act of resistance made him a marked man.

And then came the edicts calling on churches to denounce the Jewish people, even those who had converted. Bonhoeffer refused to go along. 

He became more isolated but more determined. He knew he faced death.

He didn't waver.

Bonhoeffer has much to teach us in the age of Trump. He warned that:

Evil is less dangerous to humanity than stupidity.

And that once people see evil for what it is, they can organize and fight against it.

However, stupidity and the slogans aimed at the stupid aren't taken as seriously. When stupidity is channelled to support evil, then society is in serious trouble.

In the age of Trump, we see a terrible triumvirate at work: evil, stupidity and moral cowardice. In watching the dismal contagion of cowardice among the elites, we need to give shout-outs and encouragement to those stepping up.

I put my faith in the ordinary folk who are organizing, resisting, and now marching in the streets.

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:47 PM by CMRivdogs