Mr.TaterSalad Posted Friday at 06:38 PM Posted Friday at 06:38 PM 27 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Hopefully someone serves Trump his three eyed fish on a platter. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Friday at 07:29 PM Posted Friday at 07:29 PM 5 hours ago, mtutiger said: How long does China string him out here? It's an interesting game of chicken. Theoretically, with manufactured goods, the buying country should have more leverage because they have more options - they can use a different product, they can go without, they can try to build it themselves. OTOH, the producer is kind of stuck, if he cant sell his product his investment is wasted and his people are unemployed. Though the reality is there are still a lot of ways around those tariffs exactly because the US is trying to target to target China more exclusively, which leaves a million ways to trans-ship material around the tariffs. Quote
smr-nj Posted Friday at 07:37 PM Posted Friday at 07:37 PM 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: It's an interesting game of chicken. Theoretically, with manufactured goods, the buying country should have more leverage because they have more options - they can use a different product, they can go without, they can try to build it themselves. OTOH, the producer is kind of stuck, if he cant sell his product his investment is wasted and his people are unemployed. Though the reality is there are still a lot of ways around those tariffs exactly because the US is trying to target to target China more exclusively, which leaves a million ways to trans-ship material around the tariffs. You’re sounding like you think ANYONE in this administration, in particular the orange man, has an actual game plan…. Or is possibly able to win a game of chicken with China. I just don’t think either supposition is true. 1 1 Quote
Dan Gilmore Posted Friday at 08:25 PM Posted Friday at 08:25 PM 3 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: James Madison in the Federalist Papers "47" Perhaps some of the SCOTUS Originalists should have that shared with them. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted Friday at 08:27 PM Posted Friday at 08:27 PM Just now, Dan Gilmore said: Perhaps some of the SCOTUS Originalists should have that shared with them. A little difficult when the "Originalists" are the ones on the take. 1 Quote
LaceyLou Posted Friday at 08:28 PM Posted Friday at 08:28 PM 3 hours ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Lock ‘em up (if we were in normal non-constitutional crisis time) I have a horrible feeling that he has been killed, and that's why they can't get him back to the US. I hope I'm wrong. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted Friday at 08:36 PM Posted Friday at 08:36 PM 8 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said: Perhaps some of the SCOTUS Originalists should have that shared with them. I asked ChatGPT for a Madison reaction to Federal Judges accepting "gifts". I got this reply Quote “Ah. Not guardians of the Constitution — merely its auctioneers.” This was the response from Jefferson Quote “When the arbiters of justice accept the gilded bribe beneath the false name of ‘gift,’ the decay of the Republic is not impending — it is present. I have ever feared the rise of a judicial aristocracy; I did not foresee it would come equipped with luxury retreats and benefactors of convenience.” Quote
CMRivdogs Posted Friday at 08:37 PM Posted Friday at 08:37 PM 8 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: I have a horrible feeling that he has been killed, and that's why they can't get him back to the US. I hope I'm wrong. Unfortunately I have the same feeling 1 Quote
romad1 Posted Friday at 09:03 PM Posted Friday at 09:03 PM 34 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: I have a horrible feeling that he has been killed, and that's why they can't get him back to the US. I hope I'm wrong. Not beyond the possible. 1 Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted Friday at 09:08 PM Posted Friday at 09:08 PM 38 minutes ago, LaceyLou said: I have a horrible feeling that he has been killed, and that's why they can't get him back to the US. I hope I'm wrong. Sad, but very possible. I think Trump is wanting to be wanted by the International Criminal Court like his buddies Vlad and Bibi. 1 Quote
Netnerd Posted Friday at 09:14 PM Posted Friday at 09:14 PM 4 hours ago, mtutiger said: One happy Iowan here. Right here. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM 13 hours ago, pfife said: Hasnt the guy they deported suffered enough? Apparently not. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 01:07 AM Posted yesterday at 01:07 AM 11 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: 2 core MAGA needs are hurting people, but even more, enjoying the distress normals experience about those other people being hurt. this case is perfect MAGA. a guy guilty of being brown with tattoos sent to a slave prison, and anyone who is a normal is of course upset about it. "And he has an autistic child?" "YES!" MAGA cannot get enough of this. So they can claim we have Trump Derangement Syndrome when we react, which, really, when you think about it, is really nothing more than Trump does something deranged and we happen to notice it. Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 01:16 AM Posted yesterday at 01:16 AM 5 hours ago, smr-nj said: You’re sounding like you think ANYONE in this administration, in particular the orange man, has an actual game plan…. Or is possibly able to win a game of chicken with China. I just don’t think either supposition is true. Yeah, people weighing in and speculating about the details of what this administration is doing as though everything is normal and business as usual is really grating on me. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM 4 hours ago, LaceyLou said: I have a horrible feeling that he has been killed, and that's why they can't get him back to the US. I hope I'm wrong. I predict the report will be he got shanked by a “fellow Venezuelan gang member”. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted yesterday at 01:59 AM Posted yesterday at 01:59 AM (edited) Quote Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. US Constitution, First Amendment. Edited yesterday at 02:01 AM by CMRivdogs Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 02:04 AM Posted yesterday at 02:04 AM 2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: They’ll just reply it’s not about Congress making a law. Obviously, having a supermajority in America and an even greater supermajority in Congress is not enough. Orthodoxy and hegemony must be enforced, and the only way that can happen is if heads roll. 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted yesterday at 02:08 AM Posted yesterday at 02:08 AM 7 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: US Constitution, First Amendment. I would like to report Trump as the antichrist. 2 2 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted yesterday at 02:14 AM Posted yesterday at 02:14 AM (edited) 11 minutes ago, chasfh said: They’ll just reply it’s not about Congress making a law. Obviously, having a supermajority in America and an even greater supermajority in Congress is not enough. Orthodoxy and hegemony must be enforced, and the only way that can happen is if heads roll. The Religious Test Clause states that there be no religious test ever be required for any office or public trust in the US. One would assume, in normal times, that includes all government offices as well. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-6/clause-3/ In fact several states refused to vote in favor of the original constitution unless there was a Freedom of Religion amendment. Freedom of religion has been interpreted as including non religious beliefs. Edited yesterday at 02:18 AM by CMRivdogs Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM 9 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: The Religious Test Clause states that there be no religious test ever be required for any office or public trust in the US. One would assume, in normal times, that includes all government offices as well. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-6/clause-3/ In fact several states refused to vote in favor of the original constitution unless there was a Freedom of Religion amendment. Freedom of religion has been interpreted as including non religious beliefs. If only this mattered anymore. 2 Quote
Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 12:59 PM Posted yesterday at 12:59 PM 10 hours ago, chasfh said: If only this mattered anymore. We're becoming too hopeless here. The activists are driving Musk out. Who or what can we go after next? I know it can't be psycho Trump, but there are other options which can hurt him. 1 Quote
chasfh Posted yesterday at 01:02 PM Posted yesterday at 01:02 PM 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: We're becoming too hopeless here. The activists are driving Musk out. Who or what can we go after next? I know it can't be psycho Trump, but there are other options which can hurt him. I’m not hopeless, but I am a hopeful pessimist. Quote
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