romad1 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Just now, Tiger337 said: Good point. I am ashamed to admit that I confused her with Susan Collins! mitt is the multiple impeacher. She’s the one who survives after in office because of her reputation and the weird electorate in Alaska. Quote
Archie Posted April 17 Posted April 17 2 hours ago, chasfh said: I know, I don't have high expectations for an actual response, either. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be called on to defend his allegations what the situation requires it, and I think this is just such a situation. And who knows, maybe he will upend expectations and surprise us with something. So come on, @Archie, whatcha got? https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-gang-member-history-violence This is just one source. Search the internet and you will find many more things about this guy. Why don’t you prove he is a law abiding citizen that has never been in trouble and deserves to stay in the US as an illegal alien. Whatcha got? It really doesn’t matter because no matter what proof I give you it won’t be accepted because it doesn’t fit your narrative. No wonder this it the ultra liberal loon funhouse because you can’t have civilized discussion with people that don’t agree with you. Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Archie said: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-gang-member-history-violence This is just one source. Search the internet and you will find many more things about this guy. Why don’t you prove he is a law abiding citizen that has never been in trouble and deserves to stay in the US as an illegal alien. Whatcha got? It really doesn’t matter because no matter what proof I give you it won’t be accepted because it doesn’t fit your narrative. No wonder this it the ultra liberal loon funhouse because you can’t have civilized discussion with people that don’t agree with you. Whatcha got for Trump? Quote
romad1 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Just now, Tiger337 said: Whatcha got for Trump? I don’t think Arch understands Due Process. Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Just now, romad1 said: I don’t think Arch understands Due Process. See, that's the problem. A very substantial proportion of the country wants an authoritarian leader (as long as he supports them). Archie is one of them. Quote
romad1 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: See, that's the problem. A very substantial proportion of the country wants an authoritarian leader (as long as he supports them). Archie is one of them. Propaganda goes a long way. 1 Quote
romad1 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: See, that's the problem. A very substantial proportion of the country wants an authoritarian leader (as long as he supports them). Archie is one of them. There was probably a time when i would have cited the “The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact” quotation. We are way past that! Quote
The Ronz Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Fifth Amendment No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted April 17 Posted April 17 The linked site from Archie is the DHS, the same folks who did the deportation and staffed by Trump appointees, at least at the top levels. It’s a government propaganda release Quote
pfife Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, romad1 said: I don’t think Arch understands Due Process. Clearly. Homey literally argued guilty until proven innocent Quote
pfife Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Hilarious that arch thinks repeating the claims of those not providing evidence.... is evidence. 1 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Judge J Harvey Wilkinson was appointed to the US Fourth Circuit bench by Pres Reagan in the '80s. One of the more respected Conservative Judges 1 Quote
smr-nj Posted April 17 Posted April 17 CMRivdogs made note of this yesterday. Isn’t it ridiculous? Can’t even give regular citizens a little bit of a break… have to make sure companies can make $$ even off the simplest tax return. Quote
romad1 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Senator Van Hollen denied access to Garcia. Because he's already dead? Quote
RatkoVarda Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 hour ago, romad1 said: Senator Van Hollen denied access to Garcia. Because he's already dead? correct. he's dead. in 2019, the immigration judge had a hearing and determined Garcia qualified under US law for a hold on any deportation because he faced danger from MS13 - who unsuccessfully recruited him - if he was returned home. Trump sent him to a slave prison controlled by MS13. Of course he's dead. At least I hope he is, because the alternative is even more horrifying. Quote
romad1 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-distances-his-himself-from-abrego-garcias-imprisonment-im-not-involved-in-it/ Quote
Tiger337 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 12 minutes ago, romad1 said: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-distances-his-himself-from-abrego-garcias-imprisonment-im-not-involved-in-it/ It's always somebody else's fault. Quote
romad1 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said: correct. he's dead. in 2019, the immigration judge had a hearing and determined Garcia qualified under US law for a hold on any deportation because he faced danger from MS13 - who unsuccessfully recruited him - if he was returned home. Trump sent him to a slave prison controlled by MS13. Of course he's dead. At least I hope he is, because the alternative is even more horrifying. Looks like Van Hollen met him Still, we probably didn't need a sitting US Senator to go and take this trip to a foreign country's gulag. Edited April 18 by romad1 1 Quote
pfife Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I hereby apologize to Bill Kristol for all of the mean stuff i said since 2005 about him in this forum Mf making me check my antifa card Quote
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